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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1320 on: November 24, 2011, 07:47:PM »
Shedule

07th August 1985 - silencer (1) found by DS "Stan" Jones, at whf on this date
09th August 1985 - silencer (1)
13th August 1985 - silencer (1)
15th August 1985 - silencer (1)
23rd August 1985 - silencer (1)
29th August 1985 - silencer (1)
30th August 1985 - silencer (1)

(a) Flake of blood originating from Sheila Caffell, claim to have been found inside silencer sent to lab' on 30th August 1985

11th September 1985 - silencer (2) found by David Boutflour, at whf on this date

(b) paint found on end of silencer, which came from additional scratch marks made on aga surround

12th September 1985 - silencer (2)
13th September 1985 - silencer (2)
20th September 1985 - silencer (2)
25th September 1985 - silencer (2)

In order to make the silencer (2), blood and paint evidence work in helping to convict "JB"  for the murders, it was necessary to bring forward the date of its find, so that altered records suggested it had been sent to the lab' a month earlier:-


10th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not found on this occasion
12th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not handed over on this occasion
13th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not sent to lab' on this occasion
15th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not fingerprinted on this occasion
23rd August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not fingerprinted on this occasion
29th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not dismantled, rebuilt, on this occasion
30th August 1985 - silencer (2) This silencer was not sent to the lab' on this occasion, it had not been found by this stage

(a) Flake of blood originating from Sheila Caffell, claim to have been found inside silencer sent to lab' on 30th August 1985

(b) paint found on end of silencer, which came from additional scratch marks made on aga surround

Sheila's blood was not found inside the silencer (2) found at the scene by David Boutflour, and the paint found ingrained into the end cap of the silencer (2) got there long after the shootings had taken place
« Last Edit: November 25, 2011, 03:42:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1321 on: November 24, 2011, 08:04:PM »
Shedule

07th August 1985 - silencer (1) found by DS "Stan" Jones, at whf on this date
09th August 1985 - silencer (1)
13th August 1985 - silencer (1)
15th August 1985 - silencer (1)
23rd August 1985 - silencer (1)
29th August 1985 - silencer (1)
30th August 1985 - silencer (1)

(a) Flake of blood originating from Sheila Caffell, claim to have been found inside silencer sent to lab' on 30th August 1985

11th September 1985 - silencer (2) found by David Boutflour, at whf on this date

(b) paint found on end of silencer, which came from additional scratch marks made on aga surround

12th September 1985 - silencer (2)
13th September 1985 - silencer (2)
20th September 1985 - silencer (2)
25th September 1985 - silencer (2)

In order to make the silencer (2), blood and paint evidence work in helping to convict  for the murders, it was necessary to bring forward the date of its find, so that altered records suggested it had been sent to the lab' a month earlier:-


10th August 1985 - silencer (2)
12th August 1985 - silencer (2)
13th August 1985 - silencer (2)
15th August 1985 - silencer (2)
23rd August 1985 - silencer (2)
29th August 1985 - silencer (2)
30th August 1985 - silencer (2)

(a) Flake of blood originating from Sheila Caffell, claim to have been found inside silencer sent to lab' on 30th August 1985

(b) paint found on end of silencer, which came from additional scratch marks made on aga surround

Sheila's blood was not found inside the silencer (2) found at the scene by David Boutflour, and the paint found ingrained into the end cap of the silencer (2) got there long after the shootings had taken place

Bringing forward the date when the relatives found silencer (2) by a month, made it appear as though it was not until much later that Sheila's blood had been found inside it, and that paint from the aga surround had got onto the end cap of the silencer during a struggle in the kitchen between Ralph Bamber, and his killer?
« Last Edit: November 24, 2011, 08:28:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1322 on: November 24, 2011, 08:34:PM »
Both silencers (1) and (2) were eventually merged into one, where blood from Sheila was purportedly found inside it, and paint from the aga, found upon it...

It is now possible to reconstruct exactly what took place, and to identify those who conspired together with a view to pulling the wool over the eyes of the jury, to make them believe that there had been a silencer fitted to the gun during a struggle in the kitchen, between Ralph and his killer, and also at the time Sheila was shot and killed in the main bedroom, and that the killer had to have removed it from the gun after Sheila was killed, and the only person who could have done that was ...

Add to this...

Overall length of weapon so configured would have been too long to allow Sheila an opportunity to shoot herself even if she had wanted to...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1323 on: November 24, 2011, 08:40:PM »
Only one of these two silencers was coated in super glue residue, after it was exposed to super glue treatment on 23rd August 1985:-

(a) Silencer (1)

Relatives did not find this silencer, and David Boutflour did not scrape blood off this silencer using a razor blade...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1324 on: November 24, 2011, 09:10:PM »
Silencer (2) which was checked for DNA as part of the 2002 appeal application, was not coated in super glue residue, because it was not the actual silencer which had been exposed to super glue treatment on 23rd August 1985, by virtue of the fact that it had not yet been found by the relatives by that stage
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1325 on: November 24, 2011, 09:15:PM »
Anthony Pargeter has never once given an explanation during the past 26 years or so, about the whereabouts of his Parker hale silencer, at the time of the shootings, inside whf?

It is high time he gave such an explanation, otherwise he may find himself becoming more deeply entangled in the conspiracy surrounding its possible use, and misuse...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1326 on: November 24, 2011, 09:17:PM »
Silencer (2) found by relatives on 11th September 1985, was not coated in super glue residue...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1327 on: November 24, 2011, 09:20:PM »
Various members of SOC became major players in the silencer debacle, which allowed them to merge two identical looking Parker hale silencers into one...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1328 on: November 25, 2011, 03:40:AM »
Key feature;_

(a) SILENCER (1) - coated in cynoacrylate (super glue) fumes
(b) SILENCER (2) - not coated in super glue
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1329 on: November 25, 2011, 07:55:AM »
Silencer (2) which was examined for DNA, did not have any blood inside it...

The reason for this, was because it was not used in the shootings...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1330 on: November 25, 2011, 08:58:AM »
Silencer (2) which was examined for DNA, did not have any blood inside it...

The reason for this, was because it was not used in the shootings...

At the 2002 appeal, the judges rejected DNA evidence, on the basis that it was not obtained from blood, which had all been tested to destruction from inside the silencer - but the simple truth is, that there never was any blood at all in the silencer (2) found at the scene by relatives, on 11th September...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1331 on: November 25, 2011, 09:15:AM »
Silencer (2) which was examined for DNA, did not have any blood inside it...

The reason for this, was because it was not used in the shootings...

At the 2002 appeal, the judges rejected DNA evidence, on the basis that it was not obtained from blood, which had all been tested to destruction from inside the silencer - but the simple truth is, that there never was any blood at all in the silencer (2) found at the scene by relatives, on 11th September...

No super glue residue was found on the silencer (2) which was examined for DNA (200)- since, silencer (2) had not even been found by the time the other silencer (1) had been exposed to super glue treatment, on 23rd August 1985...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1332 on: November 25, 2011, 09:23:AM »
No police records existed to confirm that the silencer found at the scene by relatives, had ever been in the possion of the police at any stage prior to 11th September. This was because silencer (2) was not found or handed over to the police until the date of its find...
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« Reply #1333 on: November 25, 2011, 09:39:AM »
According to Essex police, there was never an original file for the first part of the investigation under a crime reference of SC/688/85, four murders and a suicide, and the COLP (1990) enquiry failed to find it. But one must have existed, but it has been deliberately withheld under pii...
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« Reply #1334 on: November 25, 2011, 12:05:PM »
Whilst COLP were interviewing SOC officers in 1991, they referred to the silencer that was subject of questioning, as "THE SIGNED SILENCER”, which gives the impression that COLP knew about a second silencer, that could be referred to as "THE UNSIGNED SILENCER”...
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