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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #990 on: November 13, 2011, 10:08:AM »
I would like to point out that my informant has told me that these exhibit references (SBJ/1, DB/1 and DRB/1) were interchangeable, and that where it refers to a specific exhibit reference in certain documentation, it does not necessarily mean it was that exact silencer, only that its exhibit reference had been adopted, for the purpose of the police trying to merge both silencers into being one and the same...
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« Reply #991 on: November 13, 2011, 10:15:AM »
The silencer at the lab' from 30th August 1985 (SBJ/1) altered later to DB/1, was coated in super glue residue, whereas the second silencer (SBJ/1) substituted from DB/1, examined at the lab' on 25th September 1985, had no such super glue residue upon it...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #992 on: November 13, 2011, 10:22:AM »
NOTICE

Contact with my informant, on several occasions, has been through use of a different computer, at a different location, owned by someone else...
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« Reply #993 on: November 13, 2011, 11:33:AM »
Have you met him face to face mike? Or has it been through a webcam?

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« Reply #994 on: November 13, 2011, 11:50:AM »
Have you met him face to face mike? Or has it been through a webcam?
I think he said they met at a pub, and then went for a stroll in the woods.

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« Reply #995 on: November 13, 2011, 11:57:AM »
But going by his previous post cliff, some meeti gs have been through use of the computer, i gather that he means webcam?

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« Reply #996 on: November 13, 2011, 12:00:PM »
Oh I see what you mean Andy. Your probably right.

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« Reply #997 on: November 13, 2011, 12:43:PM »
But going by his previous post cliff, some meeti gs have been through use of the computer, i gather that he means webcam?
But you asked Mike if he had met him face to face
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Have you met him face to face mike? Or has it been through a webcam?
From what I gather from all the pictures of the wood and the pub where z parked his car is that Mike's answer would be "yes".

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« Reply #998 on: November 13, 2011, 12:53:PM »
The 1635 action reports connected with the investigations into these five deaths:-

Here is a list of all the relevant action reports instigated by Essex police in connection with this case, somewhere amongst all these enquiries, lies the truth about what really did occur with respect to these murders,and how the police gathered evidence for use in Jeremy Bambers prosecution and conviction...

I have most of the hand written action reports, in my possession, but some are obviously missing and unaccounted for, some have been withheld under pii. I could post some of them, if relevant..

Have a look at the sequence with which these contemporaneously recorded action reports are logged for any information relating to the alleged find of the silencer by the relatives? Why is it that the police appear not to show any interest in the find of the silencer by the relatives until after 11th September 1985?
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« Reply #999 on: November 13, 2011, 01:08:PM »
The 1635 action reports connected with the investigations into these five deaths:-

Here is a list of all the relevant action reports instigated by Essex police in connection with this case, somewhere amongst all these enquiries, lies the truth about what really did occur with respect to these murders,and how the police gathered evidence for use in Jeremy Bambers prosecution and conviction...

I have most of the hand written action reports, in my possession, but some are obviously missing and unaccounted for, some have been withheld under pii. I could post some of them, if relevant..

Have a look at the sequence with which these contemporaneously recorded action reports are logged for any information relating to the alleged find of the silencer by the relatives? Why is it that the police appear not to show any interest in the find of the silencer by the relatives until after 11th September 1985?

Why is it, that it was a long time after 11th September 1985, before police were asking Ann Eaton to make a statement about the find of the silencer on 10th August? Why wouldn`t the police be interested in a silencer found by the relatives on 10th August, until a month later, if the silencer relatives found was the same one police had already sent to the lab` on 13th and 30th August 1985? It. Doesn`t add up or make sense...
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« Reply #1000 on: November 13, 2011, 01:20:PM »
The 1635 action reports connected with the investigations into these five deaths:-

Here is a list of all the relevant action reports instigated by Essex police in connection with this case, somewhere amongst all these enquiries, lies the truth about what really did occur with respect to these murders,and how the police gathered evidence for use in Jeremy Bambers prosecution and conviction...

I have most of the hand written action reports, in my possession, but some are obviously missing and unaccounted for, some have been withheld under pii. I could post some of them, if relevant..

Have a look at the sequence with which these contemporaneously recorded action reports are logged for any information relating to the alleged find of the silencer by the relatives? Why is it that the police appear not to show any interest in the find of the silencer by the relatives until after 11th September 1985?

Why is it, that it was a long time after 11th September 1985, before police were asking Ann Eaton to make a statement about the find of the silencer on 10th August? Why wouldn`t the police be interested in a silencer found by the relatives on 10th August, until a month later, if the silencer relatives found was the same one police had already sent to the lab` on 13th and 30th August 1985? It. Doesn`t add up or make sense...

All the handwritten action reports are dated, timed and signed, and so specific dates when police became interested in doing things, and when specific things got done, can be verified...
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« Reply #1001 on: November 13, 2011, 01:36:PM »
The 1635 action reports connected with the investigations into these five deaths:-

Here is a list of all the relevant action reports instigated by Essex police in connection with this case, somewhere amongst all these enquiries, lies the truth about what really did occur with respect to these murders,and how the police gathered evidence for use in Jeremy Bambers prosecution and conviction...

I have most of the hand written action reports, in my possession, but some are obviously missing and unaccounted for, some have been withheld under pii. I could post some of them, if relevant..

Have a look at the sequence with which these contemporaneously recorded action reports are logged for any information relating to the alleged find of the silencer by the relatives? Why is it that the police appear not to show any interest in the find of the silencer by the relatives until after 11th September 1985?

Why is it, that it was a long time after 11th September 1985, before police were asking Ann Eaton to make a statement about the find of the silencer on 10th August? Why wouldn`t the police be interested in a silencer found by the relatives on 10th August, until a month later, if the silencer relatives found was the same one police had already sent to the lab` on 13th and 30th August 1985? It. Doesn`t add up or make sense...

All the handwritten action reports are dated, timed and signed, and so specific dates when police became interested in doing things, and when specific things got done, can be verified...

Police would not be asking Ann Eaton at sometime after 11th September 1985, to make a statement about finding the silencer on 10th August, because Ann did not find any of the two silencers, and she only handed over the silencer to the police on 11th September, she did not purportedly hand over a silencer to DS `Stan` Jones` on evening of 12th August, it was supposedly Peter Eaton who handed over a silencer, which David allegedly found on 10th August, so why would the police want a statement from Ann Eaton?
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« Reply #1002 on: November 13, 2011, 01:53:PM »
What also becomes clear, upon reading Julie Mugfords Diary notes, if they are to be treated as being truthful, is that she did not come forward voluntarily, but rather that she was pressurised by her friend`Lizzie` to come forward to spill the beans, which throws a completely different light on the evidence she gave to the court whilst testifying...

These notes contain evidence to show that JulIe Mugford deceived the court about her reasons for coming forward. She has made it absolutely clear by cross referencing what she wrote in these notes, against which she gave whilst testifying, that she is a compulsive liar, and extremely manipulative...
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« Reply #1003 on: November 13, 2011, 02:10:PM »
What also becomes clear, upon reading Julie Mugfords Diary notes, if they are to be treated as being truthful, is that she did not come forward voluntarily, but rather that she was pressurised by her friend`Lizzie` to come forward to spill the beans, which throws a completely different light on the evidence she gave to the court whilst testifying...

These notes contain evidence to show that JulIe Mugford deceived the court about her reasons for coming forward. She has made it absolutely clear by cross referencing what she wrote in these notes, against which she gave whilst testifying, that she is a compulsive liar, and extremely manipulative...

Some sense can now be made, regarding why a police action report came into being, begging the question, as to why Julie Mugfords first confession statement is written out in the third person?

Obviously, some input from `Lizzie`, or someone else in the know...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1004 on: November 13, 2011, 02:21:PM »
What also becomes clear, upon reading Julie Mugfords Diary notes, if they are to be treated as being truthful, is that she did not come forward voluntarily, but rather that she was pressurised by her friend`Lizzie` to come forward to spill the beans, which throws a completely different light on the evidence she gave to the court whilst testifying...

These notes contain evidence to show that JulIe Mugford deceived the court about her reasons for coming forward. She has made it absolutely clear by cross referencing what she wrote in these notes, against which she gave whilst testifying, that she is a compulsive liar, and extremely manipulative...

Some sense can now be made, regarding why a police action report came into being, begging the question, as to why Julie Mugfords first confession statement is written out in the third person?

Obviously, some input from `Lizzie`, or someone else in the know...
I ask you. Mugford is a head in a school in Canada. Does that look like a girl who was "led astray" by Jeremy? No. It indicates that she is a natural leader.