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chochokeira

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« Reply #900 on: November 11, 2011, 01:37:PM »
I am not going to do anymore campaigning for JB I have totally given up he never appreciated it anyway

But I do, and others do - so don't give up, for what its worth, between the devil and the deep blue sea, you have done a terrific job, it would be a shame to let it all go to waste...


Jackie is not going to give up, Mike. Someone - not Jeremy and not here - has upset Jackie and she is understandably angry. Jackie will soon be campaigning for Jeremy again, I've no doubt of that.

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« Reply #901 on: November 11, 2011, 01:48:PM »
I am not going to do anymore campaigning for JB I have totally given up he never appreciated it anyway
So you're giving up on Jeremy. Why? Because he is not appreciative of what you do? Or because he was unjustly imprisoned?


Jackie hasn't given up, Grahame, she's just angry with someone. But you and I know that Jackie's a fighter, not a quitter, she will eat this person for breakfast, then she will be back fighting for Jeremy.

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« Reply #902 on: November 11, 2011, 02:06:PM »
Funny...

How as part of the COLP (1991) inquiry, the two principle silencers in this case, (Pargeters and Bambers silencers),were sent for testing by COLP. Both had a universal fitting that allows for either silencer to be fitted to other weapons, such as a .22 air rifle like the one previously owned by Anthony Pargeter, that he gave to Jeremy...
I think it should also noted that Anthony Pargeter had Two magazines for his rifle, a ten shot and a five shot, With the Bamber magazine that is a total of 25 shots.
No need to reload anything then!
Pargeter does not mention emptying the magazines, in fact he said it was a fiddly job so he probably didn't.

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« Reply #903 on: November 11, 2011, 02:40:PM »
I am not going to do anymore campaigning for JB I have totally given up he never appreciated it anyway

But I do, and others do - so don't give up, for what its worth, between the devil and the deep blue sea, you have done a terrific job, it would be a shame to let it all go to waste...
I second that.

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« Reply #904 on: November 11, 2011, 02:51:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

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« Reply #905 on: November 11, 2011, 03:56:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
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« Reply #906 on: November 11, 2011, 04:07:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
Mmm... and according to the film Braveheart he slept with queen Isabella, despite her not coming to Britain until 3 years after his death.

I hope you validate your JB-related evidence a bit more rigorously Michael :)

Good film though, provided you apply a bucket of salt.
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« Reply #907 on: November 11, 2011, 05:16:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
Mmm... and according to the film Braveheart he slept with queen Isabella, despite her not coming to Britain until 3 years after her death.

I hope you validate your JB-related evidence a bit more rigorously Michael :)

Good film though, provided you apply a bucket of salt.
Quote from: Franky Boyle
They laughed at Mel Gibson playing a Scott in Braveheart. But look at him now, an alcoholic racist
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« Reply #908 on: November 11, 2011, 06:12:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
Mmm... and according to the film Braveheart he slept with queen Isabella, despite her not coming to Britain until 3 years after her death.

I hope you validate your JB-related evidence a bit more rigorously Michael :)

Good film though, provided you apply a bucket of salt.

modern day records are often inaccurate, as evidenced in the Bamber case, so how can anybody be sure that records from centuries ago were more accurate?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #909 on: November 11, 2011, 06:19:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
Mmm... and according to the film Braveheart he slept with queen Isabella, despite her not coming to Britain until 3 years after her death.

I hope you validate your JB-related evidence a bit more rigorously Michael :)

Good film though, provided you apply a bucket of salt.

modern day records are often inaccurate, as evidenced in the Bamber case, so how can anybody be sure that records from centuries ago were more accurate?

"History is Bunk" (Henry Ford). 

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« Reply #910 on: November 11, 2011, 06:21:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...

As defiant as Sir Everard Digby.  (Allegedly).

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« Reply #911 on: November 11, 2011, 06:23:PM »
Vey nice pictures Mike. But I doubt if Wallace every shouted those words. Also Edward longshanks died several years after Wallace, not the same day as he did. I like the rebel spirit of Wallace though.

According to the film `Braveheart`, he did shout out ”freedom”, as his heart was being ripped out...
Mmm... and according to the film Braveheart he slept with queen Isabella, despite her not coming to Britain until 3 years after her death.

I hope you validate your JB-related evidence a bit more rigorously Michael :)

Good film though, provided you apply a bucket of salt.

modern day records are often inaccurate, as evidenced in the Bamber case, so how can anybody be sure that records from centuries ago were more accurate?
Exactly. So where did the film makers get the information for Braveheart? But we do know from various records when Edward 1st died and it was long after William Wallace. His son was crowned in his place. He was a homosexual. The people didn't tolerate that kind of thing in those days so they shoved a red hot poker up his arse and killed him. Ouch!.
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« Reply #912 on: November 11, 2011, 06:30:PM »
FREEDOM !!!
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« Reply #913 on: November 11, 2011, 06:36:PM »
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Exactly. So where did the film makers get the information for Braveheart? But we do know from various records when Edward 1st died and it was long after William Wallace. His son was crowned in his place. He was a homosexual. The people didn't tolerate that kind of thing in those days so they shoved a red hot poker up his arse and killed him. Ouch!.

Graheme, you should tread this book.  It tells how that came to happen and questions whether it even happened at all.  Great book.
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« Reply #914 on: November 11, 2011, 06:43:PM »
More photographs from area where recent meeting between myself and informant took place:-
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