you should all know this?

[clifford]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

[clifford]

Fuck it was a pellet, and Z is on the button, My son is a virgin, and my daughter is going to be nun, And I am mother terasia

[grahameb]

Simple enough explanation...

(1) Air rifle at scene with silencer fitted to its barrel, and used to shoot Sheila

(2) Police cover up involved DS `Stan` Jones taking silencer off air rifle and putting the silencer back in the gun cupboard, and in its place he took the other silencer belonging to Anthony Pargeter which was kept in the downstairs toilet, into his possession

(3) Police left air rifle, and silencer which was attached at the time Sheila was shot at the scene, so that when polIce handed keys over to Ann Eaton on evening of 9th August, air rifle and silencer, were effectively handed over insitu by the police to the relatives

(4) Air rifle was recovered by Ann Eaton from the small spiral staircase in the corner of tHe kitchen

(5) Silencer remained in gun cupboard where DS Jones had put it, and was not found by the relatives until after Jeremy had been arrested on the first occasion in early September...

(6) Relatives took air rifle home and kept it there until Jeremy asked for it back on afternoon on 12th August

(7) Jeremy retained possess of air rile, untiil time of his next arrest, at which point police took possession of it from hios cottage with the co-operation of his relatives

( Police also took possession of a 12 bore shotgun which was being va$ued at Sotherbys, both were finger printed

(9) After trial police want to return air rifle to Jeremy who ios convicted and serving life imprisonment, prison refuse to keep air rife in prison property store, so Jeremy m$akles arrangement for police to hand it over to person I
In London area

Mike what happened to the 12 bore shot gun? Was that Jeremy's as well?

[grahameb]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

I doubt "Z" is a woman. For what woman would arrange to meet a stange man in a wood unaccompanied?

[mike tesko]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

You nor anybody else has any evidence at all, to prove that the fragmented pieces of lead shown in the xray is not a shattered pellet, which fragmented inside the damaged silencer which was fitt
ed to the thread on the barrel of the air rife? If you have any evidence to contradict what I have been told? The photograph of bullet PV/20 cannot be reconciled with the pieces of fragmented lead shown in the xray, if you or anybody can contradict what I am saying, post your theory...

[clifford]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

I doubt "Z" is a woman. For what woman would arrange to meet a stange man in a wood unaccompanied?

Slack Alice. Lovely girl.

[clifford]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

You nor anybody else has any evidence at all, to prove that the fragmented pieces of lead shown in the xray is not a shattered pellet, which fragmented inside the damaged silencer which was fitt
ed to the thread on the barrel of the air rife? If you have any evidence to contradict what I have been told? The photograph of bullet PV/20 cannot be reconciled with the pieces of fragmented lead shown in the xray, if you or anybody can contradict what I am saying, post your theory...

Nor do you mike, And i will not follow blindly

[grahameb]

Fuck it was a pellet, and Z is on the button, My son is a virgin, and my daughter is going to be nun, And I am mother terasia

Wow! Can you sign my arse?

[clifford]

Fuck it was a pellet, and Z is on the button, My son is a virgin, and my daughter is going to be nun, And I am mother terasia

Wow! Can you sign my arse?

Book an appointment Grahame, I have got lots of arses to sign, but I have got to lick someones first

[clifford]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

You nor anybody else has any evidence at all, to prove that the fragmented pieces of lead shown in the xray is not a shattered pellet

Don't be daft - it would have to be the world's largest air rifle pellet to have shattered into pieces the size shown on the x-ray 

I hate agreeing with you

[bob]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

You nor anybody else has any evidence at all, to prove that the fragmented pieces of lead shown in the xray is not a shattered pellet

Don't be daft - it would have to be the world's largest air rifle pellet to have shattered into pieces the size shown on the x-ray 

I hate agreeing with you

I decided to delete my contribution after posting it as I know you and NGB are the firearms experts and don't need me chipping in - but you were too quick for me Cliff  :D

Anyway, I would have thought Mike should listen to you two guys on this issue. I'm afraid this is all getting very silly now. Either somebody is playing Mike to discredit him, or he is playing us, to some unknown end 

[mike tesko]

I used Zorro because he was the masked crusader. Nothing more.
What have I ever invented Mike?

The name `Zoro` and attributed that name to my informant, trying to turn 'Z` into something she or he is most definitely not...

Mike you need to get into your nut. I have no desire to argue with you. I told you we are on the same side, but I am not going to let you take the piss.
Unlike you Mike I am inventing nothing, and I truley believe you are doing harm. Perhaps you need to step back and consider what you are saying.
I do not think that anyone believes you at the moment, but I accept that I could be wildly wrong.

You believe what you believe, and leave me to know what I know, you are taking the piss out of yourself, nobody needs to do it for you...

Have you got any idea what happened to the original piece of fragmented pellet from the air rifle  that was the original PV/20?

I doubt it...

Do you know where the substituted bullet (PV/20) originated from?

I doubt it...

But.  `Z` does...

I say again IT WAS NOT A PELLET

You nor anybody else has any evidence at all, to prove that the fragmented pieces of lead shown in the xray is not a shattered pellet, which fragmented inside the damaged silencer which was fitt
ed to the thread on the barrel of the air rife? If you have any evidence to contradict what I have been told? The photograph of bullet PV/20 cannot be reconciled with the pieces of fragmented lead shown in the xray, if you or anybody can contradict what I am saying, post your theory...

Nor do you mike, And i will not follow blindly

That is where you are most definitely wrong, because police have tampered with the original piece of fragmented lead, shown in the xray, and substituted it with something else, now why would police do this if it was originally a bullet, rather than a pellet?

[mike tesko]

Jeremy discussed air rifle with me on many occasions, and even wrote to me several times in the past - so when Jeremy himself has told me that the barrel of the air rifle was threaded so that it could be fitted with a silencer, I do not have to put up with nonsense from trouble makers. Just out of interest, to anybody who is remotely interested, the external thread on the barrel of the air rifle, and the inverted thread on the inside of the silencer are universal...

There are also many sights on the internet which confirms that you can get a silencer to fit the barrel of .22 air rifles...

If certain members want to talk utter nonsense and garbage I will leave this matter to their befuddled brains...

[smiffy]

I would be astonished if the moderator fitted the air rifle. I have not seen a air rifle with a screw end to accomodate a silencer, though I admit this could exist

Then you do not know this subject well then Cliff.
Sound moderators can be fitted..no probs and some people do use them on air rifles. Search online and you will find this out.

[smiffy]

I am unable to exclude the fragments on the x ray as being from either a pellet or a bullet as of the moment.
My tendency is that it is a bullet...but we will wait and see on that issue. Be patient.

An informant may reveal some truths but maybe not all the truths and may mislead on some issues. Their version of the truth may include false elements that direct blame away from themselves of persons they are friends with.