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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #660 on: November 07, 2011, 01:54:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

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« Reply #661 on: November 07, 2011, 06:48:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #662 on: November 07, 2011, 06:55:AM »
PS Woodcock makes a statement cling he removed rifle from Sheila`s body and made it safe ยค- so now we have three named police officers, PI Montgomery, DI Cook and PS Woodcock, all involved with removing the rifle from Sheila's body at one time or another? This is important information, since there were clearly three occasions when somebody moved the rifle off or away from Sheila`s body...

For example, once before PS Adams visited the bedroom and viewed Sheila`s body minus the rifle (as described to COLP), before 9am, secondly, and thirdly, as proofed by the position of the rifles barrel (1) beneath point of chin, and (2) resting against Sheila`s neck? Somebody would have to be responsible for removing the rifle on three occasions linked to this scenario, and `Z` has confided in me that Woodcock, Cook and Montgomery, were principle participants engaged in the stage managing of Sheila`s body in the bedroom...

`Z` has told me that JB has been blamed for doing the very things, that Woodcock, Cook and Montgomery
Have done...

It was the prosecutions case at trial, and still is to this day, despite some 26 years having elapsed, that whoever stage managed Sheila Caffells body, killed her...

`Z` told me, that this is true, but that it was the police who stage managed her body,, and the police who ultimately killed her...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #663 on: November 07, 2011, 07:11:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

Why make comments to me, on a post made by Smiffy?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #664 on: November 07, 2011, 07:26:AM »
Thanks to information  provided to me by `Z` recently, it is now possible to put names to the police officers who were responsible for stage managing the scene, (Woodcock, Cook and Montgomery). Police testimony given to COLP, and a series of crime scene photographs (already in existence and posted elsewhere on the forum) help to prove and establish this beyond doubt...
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 07:52:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #665 on: November 07, 2011, 08:02:AM »
`Z` provided me with the identity of the police officer who was handling the rifle when it went off accidentally inflicting the second wound under the chin, which effectively killed Sheila, and sparked a cover up...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #666 on: November 07, 2011, 08:09:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

Why make comments to me, on a post made by Smiffy?

That's because you are actually the same person, aren't you Mike, Smiffy is your phone and is why you never post links or documents under that name.

As Mike, you have never ever posted a document without making a whole series of comments about it, that is of course except for the firearms officers statements on the 'new board' which you have made the comments when signed in as Smiffy. Why are they on a new board? Well that's so you can get to them more easily when using your phone.

Plus the similarities in sentence construction of posts and that you've got yourself all confused recently and started replying when logged in as the wrong user name.

Oh and I've just caught you smiting me, an old Smiffy special.

I must admit, I'm slightly embarrassed to have been deceived by you for so long, but not half as embarrassed as how you should be feeling.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #667 on: November 07, 2011, 08:51:AM »
`Z` provided me with the identity of the police officer who was handling the rifle when it went off accidentally inflicting the second wound under the chin, which effectively killed Sheila, and sparked a cover up...
What were these cops doing. Aren't they trained not to mess around with firearms before they had made them safe. If they don't know how then leave well alone. Would they do that with a bomb? "Now let me see, chuck me that bomb and we'll see where it was put to be more effective". Of course they wouldn't. Suppose if had been a shotgun? "Oh, you just hold that triggerwhile I sniff the barrel to see if it has been fired". What makes me think that either it was unlikely that what "z" said is true? Or they were incredibly stupid cops?

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #668 on: November 07, 2011, 08:53:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

Why make comments to me, on a post made by Smiffy?

That's because you are actually the same person, aren't you Mike, Smiffy is your phone and is why you never post links or documents under that name.

As Mike, you have never ever posted a document without making a whole series of comments about it, that is of course except for the firearms officers statements on the 'new board' which you have made the comments when signed in as Smiffy. Why are they on a new board? Well that's so you can get to them more easily when using your phone.

Plus the similarities in sentence construction of posts and that you've got yourself all confused recently and started replying when logged in as the wrong user name.

Oh and I've just caught you smiting me, an old Smiffy special.

I must admit, I'm slightly embarrassed to have been deceived by you for so long, but not half as embarrassed as how you should be feeling.
Is that right....Steve? ::)

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #669 on: November 07, 2011, 09:18:AM »
So Hartley ..going by the Ann Eaton claims about the light in the kitchen which were proven wrong...means some of your ramblings on here about the said light are also wrong...

Ann had not been to whf for a long while prior to the murder..it seems..so she would not exactly be familiar with it...the new gun cupboard, new external door, where the phone was kept, which light in the kitchen had a lampshade on it etc... ie she was ignorant of many things....yet it did not stop that evil woman from giving false evidence and making claims she had no right to make.
So why did Ann make a claim that the broken lampshade light was the one nearest the stairs when police photographs show it was not....was this because that light was nearer to the scratch on the shelf that was created later on with the moderator...was it because the frame up persons imagined a rifle being swung and feasibly a rifle swung that may scratch the aga surround/shelf could also strike the light nearest the stairs and this was the false scenario that was being created. When in reality the broken lampshade was on the light furthest from the stairs and thus not in the area where a rifle swung to cause marks on the aga could also strike a lampshade if fitted....
Basically if something like a rifle or stool  struck the lampshade ....then this happened well away from the aga surround scratch marks that some evil people later created to frame JB.


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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #670 on: November 07, 2011, 09:22:AM »
Next,  Hartly will be saying I am the copper that fired the gun that killed Sheila...
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 10:18:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #671 on: November 07, 2011, 09:39:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems to have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

Why make comments to me, on a post made by Smiffy?

That's because you are actually the same person, aren't you Mike, Smiffy is your phone and is why you never post links or documents under that name.

As Mike, you have never ever posted a document without making a whole series of comments about it, that is of course except for the firearms officers statements on the 'new board' which you have made the comments when signed in as Smiffy. Why are they on a new board? Well that's so you can get to them more easily when using your phone.

Plus the similarities in sentence construction of posts and that you've got yourself all confused recently and started replying when logged in as the wrong user name.

Oh and I've just caught you smiting me, an old Smiffy special.

I must admit, I'm slightly embarrassed to have been deceived by you for so long, but not half as embarrassed as how you should be feeling.
Is that right....Steve? ::)

Yes, unfortunately and rather disappointingly, it is Grahame. You're having the piss taken out of you, and not by me.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #672 on: November 07, 2011, 10:21:AM »
Next,  Hartly will be saying I am the copper that fired the gun that killed Sheila...


Hahahahahahahahaha  ;D Nice one, Mike.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #673 on: November 07, 2011, 10:31:AM »
Good morning all

Mike, are you in possession of, or have you posted the witness statement of your informant?

I will understand if you are not in a position to answer this.....

Thankyou.
".....when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #674 on: November 07, 2011, 10:40:AM »
from his evidence in court it makes me wonder if he was ever there at whf or the mortuary on the 7th.
He seems to get a lot of things wrong.
Kitchen lights included....tut tut...even if he went to whf on other occasions..such as the 8th and 9th he paid no attention to the lights .....

talking of the kitchen lights...and from what is reported in that transcript ....someone else seems to have got it wrong on the kitchen lights as well...which is puzzling...and her name is Anne Eaton.
She too seems t
o have got the broken light (lampshade) the wrong way round...which suggests it was removed or taken down prior to her ever entering the house on the evening of the 9th.
She claims the wrong light was the one that was damaged in her COLP interview.

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ah...the rifle....now how easy or hard would it be to remove the magazine while grasping just the metal loops of the rifle that a strap would attach to?

Was it not Woodcock who as well claims to have removed the rifle from Sheila to make sure it was safe?

Mike, do you not think you have deceived people enough lately?  ::)

Why make comments to me, on a post made by Smiffy?

That's because you are actually the same person, aren't you Mike, Smiffy is your phone and is why you never post links or documents under that name.

As Mike, you have never ever posted a document without making a whole series of comments about it, that is of course except for the firearms officers statements on the 'new board' which you have made the comments when signed in as Smiffy. Why are they on a new board? Well that's so you can get to them more easily when using your phone.

Plus the similarities in sentence construction of posts and that you've got yourself all confused recently and started replying when logged in as the wrong user name.

Oh and I've just caught you smiting me, an old Smiffy special.

I must admit, I'm slightly embarrassed to have been deceived by you for so long, but not half as embarrassed as how you should be feeling.
Is that right....Steve? ::)

Yes, unfortunately and rather disappointingly, it is Grahame. You're having the piss taken out of you, and not by me.

You`ll be claiming next that I am the copper that took the silencer which the relatives found on 11th September to the lab` on the 26th September which only had paint on it...
« Last Edit: November 07, 2011, 10:50:AM by mike tesko »
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