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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #645 on: November 06, 2011, 06:53:PM »
truth is often strnager than fiction roch, i notice hes gone quiet?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #646 on: November 06, 2011, 06:54:PM »
I can still recall the scenes on the steps of the Court of Appeal after the release of The Guildford 4 and others, and I doubt that I am the only one. It did challenge the credibility of the police and shook the judicial establishment to its core. I suggest that the eventual quashing of Mr Bamber’s conviction (and it WILL happen) will have a similar impact, and that is why Mr Bamber remains in prison. I believe that one of the casualties of Mr Bamber’s eventual release could well spell the end of the CCRC.       I dug this out for you rochford someone else shares your view

Thanks Deedar.  Who's view is it, if not yours?

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« Reply #647 on: November 06, 2011, 06:58:PM »
I can still recall the scenes on the steps of the Court of Appeal after the release of The Guildford 4 and others, and I doubt that I am the only one. It did challenge the credibility of the police and shook the judicial establishment to its core. I suggest that the eventual quashing of Mr Bamber’s conviction (and it WILL happen) will have a similar impact, and that is why Mr Bamber remains in prison. I believe that one of the casualties of Mr Bamber’s eventual release could well spell the end of the CCRC.       I dug this out for you rochford someone else shares your view

Thanks Deedar.  Who's view is it, if not yours?
It had got name withheld, prob someone who works for them ha ha

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« Reply #648 on: November 06, 2011, 08:02:PM »
Bullet information:-

here, ballistic expert, Fletcher, describes bullet PV/20 as a whole bullet, which he says is strongly suggestive that it had been fired via the anshulz rifle, now - bullet (PV/20) which was photographed by Major mead was not a whole bullet by anybodies standards...
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« Reply #649 on: November 06, 2011, 08:08:PM »
According to Fletcher, 12 of the 25 crime scene bullets were WHOLE in appearance, but amongst those 12 he includes bullet PV/20, which is clearly not a whole bullet, by reference to the xray, or photographs taken of it...

The 25 crime scene bullets

WHOLE - 12
NEARLY WHOLE - 9
Half a BULLET - 1
FRAGMENTS OF BULLET - 3
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #650 on: November 06, 2011, 09:04:PM »
'Z' asked me to post the trial transcript of DC David Hammersley, on the forum if I had got a copy of it, because 'Z' told me that when Hammersley testified he mentioned things which involved the cover up...

I have therefore, found the said transcript and am posting it in its entirety for consideration, and to facilitate debate on the evidence given during the trial by DC Hammerlsey:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #651 on: November 06, 2011, 09:08:PM »
Bob could be miller, the cop miller?
He could be windy miller.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #652 on: November 06, 2011, 09:27:PM »
'Z' asked me to post the trial transcript of DC David Hammersley, on the forum if I had got a copy of it, because 'Z' told me that when Hammersley testified he mentioned things which involved the cover up...

I have therefore, found the said transcript and am posting it in its entirety for consideration, and to facilitate debate on the evidence given during the trial by DC Hammerlsey:-

Every one would do well to take time and trouble to read through the testimony of DC Hammersley which he gave at Jeremy's trial, in October 1986...
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« Reply #653 on: November 06, 2011, 09:32:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #654 on: November 06, 2011, 09:42:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...

So...

Montgomery moved the rifle, not DI Cook?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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« Reply #655 on: November 06, 2011, 09:47:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...

So...

Montgomery moved the rifle, not DI Cook?

Not only did Montgomery remove the rifle, rather than Di Cook do it, but Montgomery removed the ammunition magazine...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #656 on: November 06, 2011, 09:48:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...

So...

Montgomery moved the rifle, not DI Cook?

Not only did Montgomery remove the rifle, rather than Di Cook do it, but Montgomery removed the ammunition magazine...

A bit strange that, Montgomery removing the rifle from Sheila's body and taking off the ammunition magazine as well - how come there are no pictures with the ammunition magazine missing from the rifle?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #657 on: November 06, 2011, 09:50:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...

So...

Montgomery moved the rifle, not DI Cook?

Not only did Montgomery remove the rifle, rather than Di Cook do it, but Montgomery removed the ammunition magazine...

A bit strange that, Montgomery removing the rifle from Sheila's body and taking off the ammunition magazine as well - how come there are no pictures with the ammunition magazine missing from the rifle?

How come that when DI Cook testified, hwe claimed to have removed the rifle from Sheila's body and stood it against the bedroom window?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #658 on: November 06, 2011, 09:53:PM »
I have been contacted again via a go between, asking me to arrange a further meeting with 'Z' in the coming week...

'Z' has told me through a go between that some of 'Z's colleagues have been asking questions about who 'Z' could be? Of course, 'Z' has denied any knowledge of even knowing about the character referred to as 'Z'...

Hmnnn...

something is starting to stir...

So...

Montgomery moved the rifle, not DI Cook?

Not only did Montgomery remove the rifle, rather than Di Cook do it, but Montgomery removed the ammunition magazine...

A bit strange that, Montgomery removing the rifle from Sheila's body and taking off the ammunition magazine as well - how come there are no pictures with the ammunition magazine missing from the rifle?

How come that when DI Cook testified, he claimed to have removed the rifle from Sheila's body and stood it against the bedroom window?

Funny, also...

that when PC Bird testified, he claimed he did not see who removed the rifle from atop Sheila's body, despite him being the one who was taking the crime scene pictures?

I will have to sort out the testimony of DI Cook and PC Bird from the trial, along with the testimony of DS Davidson, so that everyone can get a better picture of what took place, who did what, when and why?

Surely...

all of them at least got their stories right, right?

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #659 on: November 06, 2011, 09:59:PM »
Off to bed...

going to Newmarket, and Colchester, in the early hours of the morning, might call in to see a few old friends of mine if time permits...
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 10:00:PM by mike tesko »
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