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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #615 on: November 06, 2011, 05:34:PM »
If I remeber correctly...

Didn't Anthony Pargeter originally own the BSA .22 air rifle?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #616 on: November 06, 2011, 05:36:PM »
If I remeber correctly...

Didn't Anthony Pargeter originally own the BSA .22 air rifle?

Mike - I think he did, and he gave it to Jeremy to use at WHF.


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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #617 on: November 06, 2011, 05:38:PM »
The way I see it...

It wouldn't matter what poundage the air rifle had, if a pellet was fired through a damaged or poorly aligned silencer, there would be enough momentum to damage the pellet or to fragment it, and get the pieces to the end of the silencers muzzle and exit it...

What interests me after this point, is what minimum velocity would be required for those pieces of pellet to penetrate the surface of the skin and end up is Sheila's neck as shown by Xray?

Would there be sufficient poundage or velocity to carry those fragmented pieces of pellet into Sheila's neck, once it had passed beyond the muzzle of the silencer, and gone into exit mode before entering the neck?

« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 05:45:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #618 on: November 06, 2011, 05:39:PM »
Mike, are you able to divulge if your informant has come forward as a direct result of your forum?

I can confirm that my informant has not come forward as a direct result of my forum going on line, but that contact between us was made by, and because of other means, which I cannot divulge...

But they are a forum member / guest as you have already stated.  I am guessing that they have never posted and probably use the hide ID facility, which a few members do seem to use.

Imagine if Ann Eaton started posting?  That would be class.
Perhaps %Z% is Bob Miller? Facing up to your own mortality often leads to repentance...

It's funny you should mention him.  For a short moment earlier today, I had wondered if you were Miller.
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #619 on: November 06, 2011, 05:39:PM »
If I remeber correctly...

Didn't Anthony Pargeter originally own the BSA .22 air rifle?
You remember correctly Mike. He gave it to Jeremy. he mentioned this in a statement.

Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #620 on: November 06, 2011, 05:41:PM »
If I remeber correctly...

Didn't Anthony Pargeter originally own the BSA .22 air rifle?

Mike - I think he did, and he gave it to Jeremy to use at WHF.

Yes, thank you - I have got a copy of Anthony Pargeters firearms certificate somewhere from the COLP investigation and so it should be easy to check if it was a section 1 firearm or not?
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #621 on: November 06, 2011, 05:42:PM »
If I remeber correctly...

Didn't Anthony Pargeter originally own the BSA .22 air rifle?
You remember correctly Mike. He gave it to Jeremy. he mentioned this in a statement.

Yes, thanks, I thought he did, but couldn't be sure...
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #622 on: November 06, 2011, 05:48:PM »
If bullets were coated in wax, hand swab evidence relied upon during the trial (1986) and subsequent appeal, (2002) was misleading and useless. To be pondered is why Jeremy's legal team did not contact Eley ammunitions manufacturer directly and get confirmation of this?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 05:49:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #623 on: November 06, 2011, 05:49:PM »
Mike, are you able to divulge if your informant has come forward as a direct result of your forum?

I can confirm that my informant has not come forward as a direct result of my forum going on line, but that contact between us was made by, and because of other means, which I cannot divulge...

But they are a forum member / guest as you have already stated.  I am guessing that they have never posted and probably use the hide ID facility, which a few members do seem to use.

Imagine if Ann Eaton started posting?  That would be class.
Perhaps %Z% is Bob Miller? Facing up to your own mortality often leads to repentance...

It's funny you should mention him.  For a short moment earlier today, I had wondered if you were Miller.
8) ::) ;)



I don't understand these avatar smilie things, or whatever they're called at all, Bob. So, can I ask you to explain what the three you've posted mean, please?

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #624 on: November 06, 2011, 05:51:PM »
Here comes the rub. My expert informs me that his fingers are discoloured after loading ammo,but with a quick wash in soapy water his hands are clean.
He has a 10 shot magazine, which he can load fully in about 20 seconds. In his words "a piece of piss".
No difficulty there then!

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« Reply #625 on: November 06, 2011, 05:55:PM »
Me too Bob



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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #626 on: November 06, 2011, 05:55:PM »
Put your pointer over the smilies choc, and it tells you what they mean.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #627 on: November 06, 2011, 05:58:PM »
If bullets were coated in wax, hand swab evidence relied upon during the trial (1986) and subsequent appeal, (2002) was misleading and useless. To be pondered is why Jeremy's legal team did not contact Eley ammunitions manufacturer directly and get confirmation of this?

Another thing...

no tests were done on the box of ammunition from which the 25 crime scene rounds were supposedly taken before usage, since all these were accounted for during test firing of the .22 anshulz rifle by the ballistics expert?

Volunteers at the lab' handled a different batch of .22 ammunition when they carried out tests of handling 18 bullets and the results obtained from handling this different batch of bullets was misused to show that if Sheila had handled waxed bullets she would have had significantly higher levels of ead deposit than she had?

Another deception performed by the prosecution, and its witnesses, and experts...
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 06:13:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #628 on: November 06, 2011, 06:02:PM »
What happened to the other two main pieces of bullet/pellet which fragmented inside Sheila's neck?

Did Venezis only recover one piece, if so - which piece?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 06:03:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #629 on: November 06, 2011, 06:12:PM »
I would be interested to know which of the three fragmented pieces, as shown in the Xray, is the bullet (PV/20) which Major Mead, photographed?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2011, 06:14:PM by mike tesko »
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