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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #480 on: November 06, 2011, 08:09:AM »
Is it possible to tell from examination of this photograph, whether or not this is a .22 bullet, or a .22 pellet?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #481 on: November 06, 2011, 08:11:AM »
Prior to the autopsy being performed by the opathologist, Peter Venezis, upon the body of Sheila on 7th August 1985, an xray was taken which shows both bullets in situ inside Sheila's neck and brain:-

was the bullet/pellet photographed by Major Mead, the same piece of ammunition that was present inside Sheila's neck when the Xray was taken?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #482 on: November 06, 2011, 08:16:AM »
Make the comparison, between bullet/pellet PV/20 and the images contained in the Xray, and make up your own mind:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #483 on: November 06, 2011, 08:19:AM »
Next:-

The ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, described bullet PV/20 as a WHOLE bullet...

Why did the pathologist describe the original bullet/pellet as FRAGMENTED, and yet the ballistic expert describes it as a WHOLE bullet?

Why are prosecution experts describing the same bullet/pellet differently at different stages of the case?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #484 on: November 06, 2011, 08:41:AM »
Like 'Z' told me - how could the ballistic expert, Fletcher describe the original bullet, PV/20 as a WHOLE bullet, and say that it was definitely fired via the .22 Anshulz rifle, if when it was insitu in Sheila's neck it was most definitely a FRAGMENTED bullet which had broken into three major pieces?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #485 on: November 06, 2011, 08:43:AM »
Lets look at Eley .22 LR subsonic Manufacturers bullet weights:-

Eley .22 LR subsonic bullets have a manufacturers weight of 2.27 grams
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #486 on: November 06, 2011, 09:08:AM »
Please use conversion tool to calculate Grain to Gram conversion rates:-

(1) - http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/grains-to-grams.htm
(2) - http://www.unitconversion.org/weight/grams-to-grains-conversion.html

Where Manufacturers weight for Eley .22 LR subsonic ammunition is given as 35 grains / 2.27 grams...

According to these calculation tools, 35 grain is equivalent to 2.26796 gram, and 2.27 gram is equivalent to 35. 031453461 grain...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #487 on: November 06, 2011, 09:19:AM »
Thus...

according to the weight given to the bullet/pellet (PV/20) photographed by Major Mead, it weighed 26.46 grain...

35.031453461 grain,  minus 26.46 grain, produces a deficit of approximately 8.57 grain, which is equivalent to a loss of over 20% in its mass, yet the ballistic expert describes this as a WHIOLE bullet?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #488 on: November 06, 2011, 09:25:AM »
Now look at what Eley say about the noise level produced during the firing stage:-

Note how quiet it is when these rounds are fired, so why would there be a need to use a silencer at all?
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« Reply #489 on: November 06, 2011, 09:33:AM »
Not wishing to be a fly in the ointment, but wasn't the 'silencer' issue included in Jeremy's submitted documents as part of his 'Freedom Fortnight' campaign!

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« Reply #490 on: November 06, 2011, 09:39:AM »
Here is confirmation that the pathologist, Peter Venezis handed over all the crime scene bullets to DS Davidson (SOC), including the original bullet PV/20:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #491 on: November 06, 2011, 09:40:AM »
This 'Z' seems to be covering several areas of the case.   I would have thought that as a police officer, 'Z' would not have had a broad range of duties linked to the case and would rather have had specific duties?  That might simply be a wrong assumption on my part though.  Can I ask the length of time that this person has been in touch with your self?  A couple of months ago you stated that you had received information with regards to the second shot being by accident.  However I recall that at the time, you stated that this 2nd accidental shot was administered post mortem (which would of course tie in with Dr. Craig's diagnosis according to 'Z'). 

Can I also ask how on earth 'Z' or his disgruntled colleagues were able to get hold of these negatives in the first place? Why would senior officers instigating a cover up allow 'Z' and his disgruntled colleagues to cut these 8 negatives from the strip?

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #492 on: November 06, 2011, 09:43:AM »
Not wishing to be a fly in the ointment, but wasn't the 'silencer' issue included in Jeremy's submitted documents as part of his 'Freedom Fortnight' campaign!

Not the relevance of lab' document, dated 26th September 1985, having no information about blood upon it, or its link to another submission of articles to the lab, bearing same date, as far as I am aware, but correct me if I am wrong, and point me in the direction of your source, please...
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« Reply #493 on: November 06, 2011, 09:46:AM »
This 'Z' seems to be covering several areas of the case.   I would have thought that as a police officer, 'Z' would not have had a broad range of duties linked to the case and would rather have had specific duties?  That might simply be a wrong assumption on my part though.  Can I ask the length of time that this person has been in touch with your self?  A couple of months ago you stated that you had received information with regards to the second shot being by accident.  However I recall that at the time, you stated that this 2nd accidental shot was administered post mortem (which would of course tie in with Dr. Craig's diagnosis according to 'Z'). 

Can I also ask how on earth 'Z' or his disgruntled colleagues were able to get hold of these negatives in the first place? Why would senior officers instigating a cover up allow 'Z' and his disgruntled colleagues to cut these 8 negatives from the strip?

You might conclude, therefore, that 'Z' had access to such material, and evidence...

Why would any police officer cut these negatives from the strip?

I was first contacted by 'Z' a couple of months or so, ago...

I have met 'Z' on two occasions thus far...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #494 on: November 06, 2011, 09:52:AM »
This 'Z' seems to be covering several areas of the case.   I would have thought that as a police officer, 'Z' would not have had a broad range of duties linked to the case and would rather have had specific duties?  That might simply be a wrong assumption on my part though.  Can I ask the length of time that this person has been in touch with your self?  A couple of months ago you stated that you had received information with regards to the second shot being by accident.  However I recall that at the time, you stated that this 2nd accidental shot was administered post mortem (which would of course tie in with Dr. Craig's diagnosis according to 'Z'). 

Can I also ask how on earth 'Z' or his disgruntled colleagues were able to get hold of these negatives in the first place? Why would senior officers instigating a cover up allow 'Z' and his disgruntled colleagues to cut these 8 negatives from the strip?

You might conclude, therefore, that 'Z' had access to such material, and evidence...

Why would any police officer cut these negatives from the strip?

So Z is linked to SOC then?  I understand you cant reveal identity etc.  But that is how I read your answer.