you should all know this?

[grahameb]

I am not going to post on this thread again, because you can only have so much piss take. Shame on you Mike.

the only people taking the piss in this case, were/are senior police officers and the relatives about there only being one silencer, which got sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, inside which was found the all important blood group evidence and paint from the aga surround in the kichen, and yet police still had it and sent it again to the lab' on 26th September 1985, to be checked for blood, when blood had already been found by that stage inside the other silencer...

'Z' was right...

 Game is over for police who conspired with relatives over this matter...

Goodbye and good luck, your welcome to come back whenever you want to...

Do you wish me to leave the forum mike? Is this because I do not agree with your mad hat suggestion.
I will leave straight away if this is what you wont,

No Cliff that is not what Mike said. You said you weren't going to post "in this thread". He probably thought you meant forum. Of course he doesn't want you to leave. I have always had it drummed into me, "If in doubt, wait".

[mike tesko]

Also Mike if any of this was true, it would be enough to get jb's case back to the appeal court quicker than i could blink. It would be massive news.

But no, only us on here know about it!

I am glad you think that this breaking news would be massive and that if true it would get Jeremy's case back to the court of appeal (via the CCRC), because mark my words, and thanks to 'Z' it will get Jeremy's case referred back to the court of appeal, and what is more this news will result in his convictions becoming quashed...

I am still waiting to hear from anybody that the information which 'Z' provided about these lab' documents doesn't prove there were two silencers which have been merged into the same one?

[andrea]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

[Blodwynflower]

Mike, is your informant not fearful of any repercussions arising from contact with you?

[mike tesko]

Hiow could police still have possession of a silencer bearing the identifying mark of SBJ/1 if it was sent to the lab' already on 30th August 1985, under its other identifying mark of DB/1?

What kind of evidence has been used to help secure these convictions on this innocent man?

If you are the police (like 'Z' has said), you can't send a silencer to the lab' on 30th August 1985, and still be in possession of it, to resend it on 26th September 1985? Also, if blood has already been found in one of these silencers (DB/1) you do not resend the same silencer to the lab to be checked for blood which has already been found inside it (if both silencers were/are the same one)

[clifford]

I am not going to post on this thread again, because you can only have so much piss take. Shame on you Mike.

the only people taking the piss in this case, were/are senior police officers and the relatives about there only being one silencer, which got sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, inside which was found the all important blood group evidence and paint from the aga surround in the kichen, and yet police still had it and sent it again to the lab' on 26th September 1985, to be checked for blood, when blood had already been found by that stage inside the other silencer...

'Z' was right...

 Game is over for police who conspired with relatives over this matter...

Goodbye and good luck, your welcome to come back whenever you want to...

Do you wish me to leave the forum mike? Is this because I do not agree with your mad hat suggestion.
I will leave straight away if this is what you wont,

No Cliff that is not what Mike said. You said you weren't going to post "in this thread". He probably thought you meant forum. Of course he doesn't want you to leave. I have always had it drummed into me, "If in doubt, wait".

Thanks Grahame. I have a lot of respect for you.
I do not think I misunderstood Mike though.

[mike tesko]

Mike, is your informant not fearful of any repercussions arising from contact with you?

Yes, and no...

other conspirators do not know who 'Z' is, and 'Z' has told me that if asked, any link to me will be denied - 'Z' wants senior officers to answer to it, with a view to senior officers accepting full responsibility for what was done, so that the ordinary rank and file coppers who were forced into going along with it, do not have to face the music...

'Z'has told me that this business about these two lab' records, is the sure fire way of bringing those senior officers out into the public domain to give an explanation for it. Something which Essex police and the DPP will be reluctant to have to do. 'Z' says they will have to admit that there was a mix up with the silencer evidence, and of course this mix up will lead to Jeremy's case being referred back to the court of appeal and for the convictions to be quashed...

[andrea]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

[mike tesko]

For the purpose of any doubt, I have recently posted feelings that I was and have been followed recently, and I can confirm that I have been told that I am under surveillance by the police. If true, then my meetings with 'Z' will have been noted, so police may know the identity of 'Z', but not necessarily Essex police...

[grahameb]

Mike, is your informant not fearful of any repercussions arising from contact with you?

Yes, and no...

other conspirators do not know who 'Z' is, and 'Z' has told me that if asked, any link to me will be denied - 'Z' wants senior officers to answer to it, with a view to senior officers accepting full responsibility for what was done, so that the ordinary rank and file coppers who were forced into going along with it, do not have to face the music...

'Z'has told me that this business about these two lab' records, is the sure fire way of bringing those senior officers out into the public domain to give an explanation for it. Something which Essex police and the DPP will be reluctant to have to do. 'Z' says they will have to admit that there was a mix up with the silencer evidence, and of course this mix up will lead to Jeremy's case being referred back to the court of appeal and for the convictions to be quashed...

So Mike. What was Taff Jones' reaction to all this subterfuge that was going on?

[mike tesko]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

Considering that some members of the forum are in regular contact with Jeremy, and his legal team, I should think that Jeremy knows all about it by now, and he will have been gathering all the evidence which he has got in his possession to see for himself if there is anything in it or not? Once he gathers this information and evidence together, I have no doubt that it will form part of some application to the CCRC with a view to referring his case back to the court of appeal...

[mike tesko]

[quote author=mike tesko link=to angry thatwut these two lab' records, is the sure fire way of bringing those senior officers out into the public domain to give an explanation for it. Something which Essex police and the DPP will be reluctant to have to do. 'Z' says they will have to admit that there was a mix up with the silencer evidence, and of course this mix up will lead to Jeremy's case being referred back to the court of appeal and for the convictions to be quashed...

So Mike. What was Taff Jones' reaction to all this subterfuge that was going on?
[/quote]

'Z' told me that "Taff" was not happy with the way police tactics were at risk of becoming exposed at the expense of prosecuting and convicting an innocent man for the murders of five members of his family. He was going to expose what the police had dine, when the matter came to trial, he was prepared to go to prison if the case against Jeremy got as far as a trial at the Crown court...

That's what 'Z' told me...

A dark cloud hangs over the circumstances of "Taffs" death...

If the truth be known, 'Z' is worried that the same fate may happen in 'Z' s case, hence the reluctance to go public, self confessing...

[andrea]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

Considering that some members of the forum are in regular contact with Jeremy, and his legal team, I should think that Jeremy knows all about it by now, and he will have been gathering all the evidence which he has got in his possession to see for himself if there is anything in it or not? Once he gathers this information and evidence together, I have no doubt that it will form part of some application to the CCRC with a view to referring his case back to the court of appeal...

Im still not buying it Mike, why havent YOU approached his legal team? and if Z wants to get off his massive guilt trip, he would approach them too wouldnt he?

[mike tesko]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

Considering that some members of the forum are in regular contact with Jeremy, and his legal team, I should think that Jeremy knows all about it by now, and he will have been gathering all the evidence which he has got in his possession to see for himself if there is anything in it or not? Once he gathers this information and evidence together, I have no doubt that it will form part of some application to the CCRC with a view to referring his case back to the court of appeal...

Im still not buying it Mike, why havent YOU approached his legal team? and if Z wants to get off his massive guilt trip, he would approach them too wouldnt he?

Who said 'Z' is a he?

[chochokeira]

The only way it will get to the court of appeal mike is if jb's legal team are aware and have definate proof that what youre saying is true, then they would submit it to the CCRC, so..are jb's legal team aware or not?

  mike could you answer please ?

Considering that some members of the forum are in regular contact with Jeremy, and his legal team, I should think that Jeremy knows all about it by now, and he will have been gathering all the evidence which he has got in his possession to see for himself if there is anything in it or not? Once he gathers this information and evidence together, I have no doubt that it will form part of some application to the CCRC with a view to referring his case back to the court of appeal...

Im still not buying it Mike, why havent YOU approached his legal team? and if Z wants to get off his massive guilt trip, he would approach them too wouldnt he?

Who said 'Z' is a he?

My thoughts precisely, Mike.