you should all know this?

[grahameb]

Regarding the silencer issue:

I've not read any substantial contradictory responses, from the respected forum members who suspect or believe in Jeremy's guilt.  One has even conceded that the silencer evidence would be dismissed outright as inadmissible, given what is now known.  Another has described the silencer evidence as a "crock of shit".  Others simply choose to stay silent on this aspect of the case.  Granted, its' complexity may have had an impact on this avoidance.

I also think one or two forum members may be 'in denial' about the issue, on account of their loyalty ties to the relatives.  Not an easy position to be in.   

'Z' told me submission of silencer to lab' on 26th September 1985, and accompanying lab' records, will prove in any court in land, that there was more than one silencer, and that two of them were merged into being one and the same...

also...

how could silencer SBJ/1, be the same silencer sent to the lab' on 13th and 30th August 1985, and blood be found inside it before silencer (SBJ/1) sent to the lab' on 26th September 1985, where police are asking for it to be checked for blood and fibers, if blood had already been found inside it, and confirmed as belonging to Sheila (between 12th and 19th September 1985)?

It just doesn't add up, and when I spoke to 'Z' the other day about this, I had to agree with 'Z' that these lab' records do prove the existence of at least two different silencers, which prosecution witnesses have merged into the same silencer...

am I the only one who is off pissed off by Z.

I think this is a crock of shit, and refuse to be drawn on this. I will not put my name forward to discuss this seriously, because I think this a load of B*******s.
Mike you are undermining the forum and losing creditability.
Any ex cop would make a lot of money if he went to the press, but no he went to Mike Tesko and spilled his guts for nothing. Get real Stop taking the piss out of me, I do not believe a word of it.





Completed quote brackets: Grahame

A cop may know one or two things. But I doubt he would know all this stuff that Mike has spoken about before. I want proof of "Z"s existence now This stuff is ott.

[mike tesko]

Regarding the silencer issue:

I've not read any substantial contradictory responses, from the respected forum members who suspect or believe in Jeremy's guilt.  One has even conceded that the silencer evidence would be dismissed outright as inadmissible, given what is now known.  Another has described the silencer evidence as a "crock of shit".  Others simply choose to stay silent on this aspect of the case.  Granted, its' complexity may have had an impact on this avoidance.

I also think one or two forum members may be 'in denial' about the issue, on account of their loyalty ties to the relatives.  Not an easy position to be in.   

'Z' told me submission of silencer to lab' on 26th September 1985, and accompanying lab' records, will prove in any court in land, that there was more than one silencer, and that two of them were merged into being one and the same...

also...

how could silencer SBJ/1, be the same silencer sent to the lab' on 13th and 30th August 1985, and blood be found inside it before silencer (SBJ/1) sent to the lab' on 26th September 1985, where police are asking for it to be checked for blood and fibers, if blood had already been found inside it, and confirmed as belonging to Sheila (between 12th and 19th September 1985)?

It just doesn't add up, and when I spoke to 'Z' the other day about this, I had to agree with 'Z' that these lab' records do prove the existence of at least two different silencers, which prosecution witnesses have merged into the same silencer...

am I the only one who is off pissed off by Z.

I think this is a crock of shit, and refuse to be drawn on this. I will not put my name forward to discuss this seriously, because I think this a load of B*******s.
Mike you are undermining the forum and losing creditability.
Any ex cop would make a lot of money if he went to the press, but no he went to Mike Tesko and spilled his guts for nothing. Get real Stop taking the piss out of me, I do not believe a word of it.





Completed quote brackets: Grahame

'Z' exposed this...

[clifford]

Grahame you know my stance here. Mike is taking the piss, and I am not happy.

[mike tesko]

Grahame you know my stance here. Mike is taking the piss, and I am not happy.

Only an ex copper on the case would know about the significance of these two lab' records and what they mean and stand for - you believe what you want to, its a free country...

[mike tesko]

There are some on here who choose not to believe anything which seriously undermines the prosecutions case - well, time to get real, how could police still be in possession of a silencer (SBJ/1) on 26th September 1985, that was already sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, albeit under the guise of exhibit DB/1 (which was supposed to be the same silencer)?

'Z' exposed the truth about this matter, no-one else...

Some may choose to believe that 'Z' does not exist, but what 'Z' has done is provide the key to get to the bottom of this conspiracy to pervert the course of justice by senior officers in the case who put 'z' and colleagues in the firing line...

[andrea]

Grahame you know my stance here. Mike is taking the piss, and I am not happy.

well said Cliff, i couldnt agree more.

[clifford]

Regarding the silencer issue:

I've not read any substantial contradictory responses, from the respected forum members who suspect or believe in Jeremy's guilt.  One has even conceded that the silencer evidence would be dismissed outright as inadmissible, given what is now known.  Another has described the silencer evidence as a "crock of shit".  Others simply choose to stay silent on this aspect of the case.  Granted, its' complexity may have had an impact on this avoidance.

I also think one or two forum members may be 'in denial' about the issue, on account of their loyalty ties to the relatives.  Not an easy position to be in.   

'Z' told me submission of silencer to lab' on 26th September 1985, and accompanying lab' records, will prove in any court in land, that there was more than one silencer, and that two of them were merged into being one and the same...

also...

how could silencer SBJ/1, be the same silencer sent to the lab' on 13th and 30th August 1985, and blood be found inside it before silencer (SBJ/1) sent to the lab' on 26th September 1985, where police are asking for it to be checked for blood and fibers, if blood had already been found inside it, and confirmed as belonging to Sheila (between 12th and 19th September 1985)?

It just doesn't add up, and when I spoke to 'Z' the other day about this, I had to agree with 'Z' that these lab' records do prove the existence of at least two different silencers, which prosecution witnesses have merged into the same silencer...

am I the only one who is off pissed off by Z.

I think this is a crock of shit, and refuse to be drawn on this. I will not put my name forward to discuss this seriously, because I think this a load of B*******s.
Mike you are undermining the forum and losing creditability.
Any ex cop would make a lot of money if he went to the press, but no he went to Mike Tesko and spilled his guts for nothing. Get real Stop taking the piss out of me, I do not believe a word of it.
Sorry Mike It does'nt matter how many times you post now I am pissed off with you.
Perhaps if you stopped guilding the lily you may be taken seriously again





Completed quote brackets: Grahame

'Z' exposed this...

[mike tesko]

Grahame you know my stance here. Mike is taking the piss, and I am not happy.

well said Cliff, i couldnt agree more.

look at what 'Z' exposed, and tell me its imaginary?

[mike tesko]

Suddenly they all went quiet...

they can't think up anything constructive to say about what 'Z' has brought to the forum, about the existence of these two different silencers which police merged into the same silencer......

[mike tesko]

'Z' was right...

here at last is a way of proving there were at least two different silencers, both of which had red paint from the aga on them, one at the lab' from 30th August 1985, and the other in police possession at that time, and kept in police possession until much later on, and not sent to the lab' until 26th September 1985...

Thank you 'Z', for proving the disbelievers with the proof that the silencer evidence was dodgy and is part of a wider conspiracy involving police and relatives...

Thank you 'Z'...

[andrea]

Ok Mike, do you ever intend on going public with Z's real name? Are Jeremy Bambers legal team aware of meetings between you and Z?

Supposing this is all true, do you think that these meetings are helping jb's case, considering that you cant take a copy of the pictures, therefore you cant prove they exist.

What good is all this doing, because from where im standing its not going to make one iota of difference.

[mike tesko]

Personal Message to 'Z' on public forum

I promise to keep your identity a secret, and I vow to make sure that all the evidence you have given me will be used to expose the senior investigating officers who made you and your colleagues do what you had to do...

I will pursue those senior police officers, every last one of them, and expose what they did and have done, with the best of my ability, until every last one of them are arrested and prosecuted and imprisoned - thank you for trusting me, I will do everything in my power to expose what your senior officer colleagues did in this case to secure the wrongful conviction for these murders on Jeremy Bamber  who is innocent, and for making you and other officers lie and falsify evidence...

I will keep to my side of the bargain...

[clifford]

Suddenly they all went quiet...

mike I have not gone quiet, and I will never be quiet, but the fact is you are trying to fill me with bullshit
Give me some credit.
You cannot expect me , or anyone to follow you blindly. Your last posts have been off the wall, and defy belief.

[andrea]

Ok Mike, do you ever intend on going public with Z's real name? Are Jeremy Bambers legal team aware of meetings between you and Z?

Supposing this is all true, do you think that these meetings are helping jb's case, considering that you cant take a copy of the pictures, therefore you cant prove they exist.

What good is all this doing, because from where im standing its not going to make one iota of difference.

Mike 

[clifford]

I am not going to post on this thread again, because you can only have so much piss take. Shame on you Mike.