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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2011, 11:44:PM »
(Z) - is this the document you were talking about this afternoon?







Can 'Z' reply without revealing himself?!

(Z) can...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2011, 11:47:PM »
(Z) - I will post COLPS photographic schedule in full tomorrow, next time we meet up can you bring the other photographs for the corresponding missing negatives I just need to see what's in them?
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« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2011, 11:49:PM »
If any of this is true I will never get over the wickedness of people setting someone up for a lifetime in prison

How could anyone

If it happened to me I would have committed suicide I couldn't have handled it

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« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2011, 11:50:PM »
Mike, is your informant able to confirm that Nevill did indeed call Jeremy?

Thankyou.
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2011, 11:54:PM »
If any of this is true I will never get over the wickedness of people setting someone up for a lifetime in prison

How could anyone

If it happened to me I would have committed suicide I couldn't have handled it
Jackie you have chosen words with thought, your last sentence contains perhaps the answer why in 26 years has Jeremy gone only forward never back and keep going forward to seek justice !, i have utmost respect for Jeremy and total disdain for EP.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2011, 11:56:PM »
Mike, is your informant able to confirm that Neville did indeed call Jeremy?

Thankyou.

Yes, (Z) says police were satisfied Ralph made the call, and that the blood found on the kitchen floor immediately in front of where the bloodied fingermarks were made on the edge of the kitchen worktop, close to where the phones handset was off its cradle was linked to Ralph Bamber...

DCI Jones was convinced that Sheila forced Ralph to make the call to Jeremy to try and lure him to the farm so that she could kill him as well...
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« Reply #111 on: November 04, 2011, 12:03:AM »
How has your informant been able to live with this secret all these years? They must have had many a sleepless night.....
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #112 on: November 04, 2011, 12:07:AM »
(Z) - yes, is this the lab' diagram you asked me about today? I can see the point you made, this silencer in this diagram does not appear to have been dismantled by this stage (25th September 1985), yet the blood group activity (A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1) was already found and identified by 19th September 1985? This can't therefore be the silencer inside which was found the crucial blood group evidence...


Thanks for that...

I can see what you mean now, by referring to this diagram to help show that there was more than just the one silencer, since as you told me blood was found in the other silencer which was dismantled before 12th September 1985...

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« Reply #113 on: November 04, 2011, 12:09:AM »
Seems to me, that as of 25th September 1985, when this silencer was received at the Lab' and checked, all it had upon it was some paint, not any blood?

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #114 on: November 04, 2011, 01:20:AM »
Most of what " Z" has shown  and said to Mike makes sense to me...
The little problems are clear to me and are no obstacle.

The truth is emerging in a fragmentary way.
The cover up seems to be collapsing as the lies and deceptions dont stack up and become exposed bit by bit.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2011, 07:35:AM »
Conspirators never banked on disclosure/access of all available photographs to Jeremy`s legal team, nor on the expertise of Mr Sutherst, who is able to establish true order all the available photographs were taken, and even the stage at which the missing eight negatives were taken and cut from the negative strip. I should think it obvious therefore that the time for the police to confess to what they did wrong is looming large. I am expecting others in addition to 'Z` to come forward in due course, particularly so, because police officers were given reassurances from the DPP`s office that they would not be prosecuted, so I think the ones who own up will not appear in the dock at peril of being convicted and being sent to prison...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2011, 08:12:AM »
I'm Sorry Mike, but this is all rather silly.

You can not 'encourage' ex-policemen to come forward with this silly game.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2011, 09:18:AM »
I'm Sorry Mike, but this is all rather silly.

You can not 'encourage' ex-policemen to come forward with this silly game.

can you elaborate on what you mean here...do you believe there has been a cover up, whether of a small scale or a large scale?
Have you a special skill that allows you to detect when people are messing about and lying...hmm maybe you have...did you develop it from monitoring the Eatons and Boutflours concoctions...please tell.

I think we all recognise the relatives lied their heads off....but with your accusations you dont seem to have anything of substance to found your accusations upon.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #118 on: November 04, 2011, 09:32:AM »
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particularly so, because police officers were given reassurances from the DPP`s office that they would not be prosecuted, so I think the ones who own up will not appear in the dock at peril of being convicted and being sent to prison...

I have thought this for a long time now.  For me it helps explain Bews and Miller's forays in to the world of television and Stan Jones piping up via local newspapers.  If the police officers were told this then where does that leave any relatives regarding the silencer issue?  Were they not also 'protected' by default, in light of reassurances given to police?

Any police officer wishing to come forward is in the unenviable position of contemplating dobbing his former colleagues in the proverbial.  This in my view has also hampered the truth from coming out.  I would like to see the poster 'Ron Cook' add to this thread.

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #119 on: November 04, 2011, 09:37:AM »
I'm Sorry Mike, but this is all rather silly.

You can not 'encourage' ex-policemen to come forward with this silly game.

But he's placed the validity of the logs at risk. Since the logs have represented a very strong line of defence argument, it seems odd that Mike would then pursue a 'game' which potentially undermines those very logs.   

The jury is out for me on (Z) though, until I get more info.