you should all know this?

[grahameb]

(1) Two contrasting Photographs which show Sheila on the bed exist, in one she has two entry wounds to her neck, yet other one only shows one

Mike,

Did your informant cast any light on why the police took a photo of Sheila with only one wound?
i.e. when he was presumably still alive?

This is completely illogical to me 

He's just told you that. Read it again.

[bigpod]

Some random thoughts I am mulling over.

Z has kept photos for 25+ years, with a strong inference this is in "self-defence" in case the real story of WHF ever comes to light.
Z offers to show these to Mike Tesko, but with no duplication allowed. However, Mike is allowed to tell us what he has seen.
Z has not given these photos to CCRC or the JB appeal team (we assume).

Therefore, either:-
Z wants to see justice done, but does not trust someone somewhere to use the information correctly; this can be discounted as if the photo gets into the public domain such as publishing on the internet here, it can no longer be denied, or stolen, or lost (etc.)
or
Z is wanting to discredit MT by giving him further info he can speak about but not produce.
or
Z is confused about what course to take. If Z was a police officer, it is difficult to "grass" on an organisation like that, especially where possibly long term colleagues, and maybe Z himself (or herself) may be implicated. Perhaps the thought that it will become clear to others involved that the missing evidence is still around may lead to others coming forward, meaning Z doesn't fear 'outing' this new evidence alone.

Any other ideas on the reasson forr todays revelations?

[mike tesko]

(1) Two contrasting Photographs which show Sheila on the bed exist, in one she has two entry wounds to her neck, yet other one only shows one

Mike,

Did your informant cast any light on why the police took a photo of Sheila with only one wound?
i.e. when he was presumably still alive?

This is completely illogical to me 

photograph taken of the solitary wound to Sheila's neck must have been taken at a time when they thought she was dead in keeping with the pronouncement made by Dr Craig who verified or confirmed death in her case at around 8:44am. Second photograph showing both wounds was obviously taken after the accident when the gun had gone off during mishandling of the rife and the body there afterwards...

So how does this fit in with the one-dead-male-one-dead-female theory of Sheila being in the kitchen on entry and then recovering from one shot and running up the back stairs? By the time the one-shot photo was taken the house would have been crawling with police, soco etc. so no way could she have done the runner after that surely?

Wait until you hear what (Z) had to say about that?

Do tell...

(Z) says that those logs are false, they were invented to try and accommodate for the fact that Sheila had been shot twice, once downstairs during a purported struggle with Ralph, and secondly upstairs when she had succeeded in  taking her own life? (Z) says the officers report about a shooting incident downstairs was also part of the same false scenario, all designed to try to explain how Sheila had been shot twice?

When relatives started to poke their noses into the shootings, it was too late for the police to start telling the truth about what they had been responsible for, because the bodies had been disposed of, and lies told at the opening of the inquest, and so other measures were taken which included the substitution of the original fragmented bullet, PV/20, by replacing it with a whole control bullet, so that the two different scenarios where Sheila had been shot once downstairs and once upstairs by use of different weapons could be merged into9 a one gun crime scenario...

[grahameb]

(Z) says it was not until after second shot went off accidentally and caused the fatal shot under the chin, that police at the scene realized that shiela had not been dead after all, but by that stage Dr Craig had left the scene, and (Z) says this was when another doctor named HARRIS was requested to attend the scene and he verified Sheila as being dead for a second time...

Which also explains the still wet blood from the wound.

[jon]

What guarantee's did they ask of you , over what they told and showed you ?

[bigpod]

Sorry, I was typing as relevent info was being posted and did not read the updates.
Lots explained there, thanks.

Although I still have a concern MT might be being set up with more evidence that will never be released, which will only feed to 'JB guilty' side of the argument.

[clifford]

(1) Two contrasting Photographs which show Sheila on the bed exist, in one she has two entry wounds to her neck, yet other one only shows one

(2) Black bible was photographed on bed

(3) Blood dripped onto kitchen floor from arm of person who left bloodied finger marks, and that person was non other than Ralph Bamber...

Sorry I cannot buy into this. Shiela on the bed with one gunshot wound, and then later with two,[on the bed]
Lets look at this.Past posts have suggested that Sheila shot herself once downstairs, and after the raid team entered she legged it up the stairs, and shot herself again, So one shot downstairs, and one shot upstairs. On past post Sheila was downstairs with a wound to her neck, and woke up   skidadled upstairs. laid on the bed with June, and blew her brains out.
Are we now implying that Sheila was photographed once on the bed with one wound, and a second time with two?
I may be missing something here, but if I am not this is bollocks. IMO.

[grahameb]

May I urge this ex police officer to have the courage to come forward and do the right thing? To save the life of an innocent man who has spent over 26 years in prison. Not only that but has been condemned and vilified by many and unjustly so. This information will not only free him, but also vindicate him. This police officer will be considered a hero by many for once and for all declaring the truth.

[clifford]

Grahame it will all go quiet soon

[mike tesko]

(Z) says it was not until after second shot went off accidentally and caused the fatal shot under the chin, that police at the scene realized that shiela had not been dead after all, but by that stage Dr Craig had left the scene, and (Z) says this was when another doctor named HARRIS was requested to attend the scene and he verified Sheila as being dead for a second time...

Which also explains the still wet blood from the wound.

(Z) also says that there was some sort of a big internal enquiry regarding the actions of the ambulance crews, and a senior member of the ambulance service who attended the scene, but who were all turned away without them setting eyes on any of the victims. (Z) says the mistake made by Dr Craig when he wrongly confirmed Sheila's death at 8;44am, was further compounded by the sending away or the withdrawal of the ambulances and their crews from the scene, at a time when they might have been able to save Sheila's life?

[mike tesko]

(Z) says this was/is why the photographic album has been tampered with, and why PC Bird created a false MASTER COPY ALBUM pertaining to contain 223 pictures, when all along there were 581 photographs in the top secret album we now know to be called THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM...

The correct sequence of all photographs that were taken at the scene were capable of exposing the cover up, this is what (Z) told me today...

[Roch]

It will all come down to whether the alleged photos shown today are genuine.

[clifford]

Tell you what I want to know Mike. Why were TWO firearms units sent to WHF
I will try and dig out the story and post it.
It appears that the first group were in conversation withy someone inside the house, so more backup was requested.
Do you know anything of this Mike?

[mike tesko]

(Z) showed me three photographs today which I have never seen before, (Z) says the negatives for these were cut out from the strip of negatives not as part of a cover up, but taken by officers who have been caught up in this conspiracy after they were ordered by senior officers to make false statements (which most officers refused to sign). (Z) says that most of the officers concerned refused to attend the trial to give the false testimony that was put into their statements by senior officers and later by the editing of those same statements by the DPP's office...

[mike tesko]

Tell you what I want to know Mike. Why were TWO firearms units sent to WHF
I will try and dig out the story and post it.
It appears that the first group were in conversation withy someone inside the house, so more backup was requested.
Do you know anything of this Mike?

yes, I know more about that after meeting (Z) today for the second time in as many days...