you should all know this?

[Roch]

Sorry I didn't see your first answer.  Why would Soames (Special Branch) be ordering the destruction of exhibits in 1996, 11 years after the tragedy? 

[boheme]

Mike, do you know how Woodcock accidentally fired the fatal shot, was there a strugle or did the gun go off by accident ?

[Roch]

Mike, do you know how Woodcock accidentally fired the fatal shot, was there a strugle or did the gun go off by accident ?

We've been waiting for this point to come along for a long time.  Does this mean both shots were fired upstairs (as per circular blood spatter on carpet)?  What's the story behind that stain just under the blue bible (the one that looks a bit like the word 'Sin')? 

 

[smiffy]

My point of view on the second shot..
thoughts...
Bullet wounds to the neck unless superficial are highly likely to be fatal.
The first wound was going to be fatal...it was only a matter of time..
the second wound only speeded up her passing...

[Roch]

My point of view on the second shot..
thoughts...
Bullet wounds to the neck unless superficial are highly likely to be fatal.
The first wound was going to be fatal...it was only a matter of time..
the second wound only speeded up her passing...

What, you mean they administered a mercy shot?  But in what context to the first shot?  Do you mean that they were responsible in some way for the first shot having took place? 

[ngb1066]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

[chochokeira]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

Chief Inspector John Soames gets a mention here, in Essex Police's edition of The Law (September 1996). It's on page 4, small boxed column on the left:

http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/thelaw/n_9609lw.pdf

[chochokeira]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

There's also a mention of him on page 7,bottom and middle of the page, of the same publication, in relation to the covert activities of Special Branch during a hijack at Stansted Airport.

[mike tesko]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

Police sergeant Paul Woodcock, the person who I have received information about, who was responsible for mishandling the loaded rifle that fired the fatal bullet under Sheila`s chin, worked for special branch, and I have been told that a full file (SC/688 and SC/786) including copies of all 581 photographs, and the missing negative, are in the possession, and under the control of special branch. They have it all, including the original autopsy notes written up by the pathologist, Peter Venezis - which supposedly were stolen out of his loft during a burlary for whioch there is, and never has been allocated, a corresponding croime reference number?

[Blodwynflower]

Mike, do you have more than one informant?

Thankyou.

[Roch]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

Police sergeant Paul Woodcock, the person who I have received information about, who was responsible for mishandling the loaded rifle that fired the fatal bullet under Sheila`s chin, worked for special branch, and I have been told that a full file (SC/688 and SC/786) including copies of all 581 photographs, and the missing negative, are in the possession, and under the control of special branch. They have it all, including the original autopsy notes written up by the pathologist, Peter Venezis - which supposedly were stolen out of his loft during a burglary for which there is, and never has been allocated, a corresponding crime reference number?

I've been waiting for ages for somebody to mention this again.  Funny thing to steal during a burglary.  Is it true that the Coroners report or the Pathologists report re DCI Taff Jones is also withheld in some form, e.g. PII?

[HMEssex]

I am very interested to learn more about the involvement of Special Branch.  Does anyone have any further information about this?

Police sergeant Paul Woodcock, the person who I have received information about, who was responsible for mishandling the loaded rifle that fired the fatal bullet under Sheila`s chin, worked for special branch, and I have been told that a full file (SC/688 and SC/786) including copies of all 581 photographs, and the missing negative, are in the possession, and under the control of special branch. They have it all, including the original autopsy notes written up by the pathologist, Peter Venezis - which supposedly were stolen out of his loft during a burglary for which there is, and never has been allocated, a corresponding crime reference number?

I've been waiting for ages for somebody to mention this again.  Funny thing to steal during a burglary.  Is it true that the Coroners report or the Pathologists report re DCI Taff Jones is also withheld in some form, e.g. PII?

I know! Bizarre eh?  What is it about this case that caused so much covering up and subterfuge- it can't all be coincidence.  Or is this just par for the course with the Police?

[Roch]

I know! Bizarre eh?  What is it about this case that caused so much covering up and subterfuge- it can't all be coincidence.  Or is this just par for the course with the Police?

I suspect that the cops must have known exactly how to cover something up when the need arises.  However, I also suspect that they had not encountered the need to envisage a cover up as monumental as this one.  And you have to ask your self... why go to such lengths?  If the ends justify the means... and such lengths as these have been gone to... then I am led to also suspect that whatever took place at the farmhouse must have been very serious.

[mike tesko]

Mike, do you have more than one informant?

Thankyou.

Yes...

[mike tesko]

Request should be made to CCRC to obtain file from Special Branch, and information about the lectures which ACC Peter Simpson was giving using the withheld crime scene photographs?

These persons who took part in these lectures have seen crime scene photographs of Sheila's body on the bed, with one wound to her neck, and with two wounds on her neck, before the police moved her body to the bedroom floor, where they stage managed her body again, using one of the two bibles, and the rifle with its barrel in at least two different positions against her neck...