Jeremys Good News

[grahameb]

Grahame and Rochy I think we all know who akeroid is and petey and eaton whoever but maybe I will tell tell Simon I am sure he would find it hilarious and he might sneak on here under a different name like Hartley.

Why would he call himself Hartley?

[jackiepreece]

Sorry Grahame I meant Simon using an alias like john and Hartley

[curiousessex]

Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes and I have no doubt in my mind Simon is not on anyone's side only the right side

I will post something in a minute to show Simon is quite prepared to take on anyone who is in the wrong

Jackie

Your post which follows the one quoted above initially details........ 'This forum is all about getting to the truth....'

Re your comment 'Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes...'

The reason I have not been on line much recently is for the following reasons;

1 My father died in August
2 The day after my father's funeral my mother had swellings in her arms (She has a 20 year history of breast cancer)
3 My mother had a scan during the following week and amongst other things leisions on her liver had changed
4 My mother was subsequently booked in for the administering of a stent and for 6 sessions of agressive chemotherapy
5 After chemotherapy on a Friday she was rushed to hospital on a Monday with very low blood pressure and excessive swelling in her arms and head. The family were told the next 24 - 48 hours were critical
6 She spent two weeks in a hospital
7 Was transferred to a hospice
8 After two weeks in the hospice she was transferred to a place where she can have 24 hour care (This being last Monday)

I am afraid my silence has nothing to do with Simon and pro bono work for Jeremy. In fact, I think it is good Simon has offered his services pro bono.

[Roch]

Sorry to hear you have had a sad and testing time C.E.  I know you did inform me previously that there were some issues taking place. 

Always look forward to your posts, they are excellent no matter the subject, whether it's case related or otherwise.

[grahameb]

Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes and I have no doubt in my mind Simon is not on anyone's side only the right side

I will post something in a minute to show Simon is quite prepared to take on anyone who is in the wrong

Jackie

Your post which follows the one quoted above initially details........ 'This forum is all about getting to the truth....'

Re your comment 'Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes...'

The reason I have not been on line much recently is for the following reasons;

1 My father died in August
2 The day after my father's funeral my mother had swellings in her arms (She has a 20 year history of breast cancer)
3 My mother had a scan during the following week and amongst other things leisions on her liver had changed
4 My mother was subsequently booked in for the administering of a stent and for 6 sessions of agressive chemotherapy
5 After chemotherapy on a Friday she was rushed to hospital on a Monday with very low blood pressure and excessive swelling in her arms and head. The family were told the next 24 - 48 hours were critical
6 She spent two weeks in a hospital
7 Was transferred to a hospice
8 After two weeks in the hospice she was transferred to a place where she can have 24 hour care (This being last Monday)

I am afraid my silence has nothing to do with Simon and pro bono work for Jeremy. In fact, I think it is good Simon has offered his services pro bono.

Sorry to hear of your illness and loss in your family. I also apologise on behalf of others for their misunderstanding of your absence. I do hope your circumstances improve soon. Although it seems that you have still some trials ahead of you?

[curiousessex]

Sorry to hear you have had a sad and testing time C.E.  I know you did inform me previously that there were some issues taking place. 

Always look forward to your posts, they are excellent no matter the subject, whether it's case related or otherwise.

Roch

I have always thought and said you are a good man......... a gentleman

[curiousessex]

Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes and I have no doubt in my mind Simon is not on anyone's side only the right side

I will post something in a minute to show Simon is quite prepared to take on anyone who is in the wrong

Jackie

Your post which follows the one quoted above initially details........ 'This forum is all about getting to the truth....'

Re your comment 'Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes...'

The reason I have not been on line much recently is for the following reasons;

1 My father died in August
2 The day after my father's funeral my mother had swellings in her arms (She has a 20 year history of breast cancer)
3 My mother had a scan during the following week and amongst other things leisions on her liver had changed
4 My mother was subsequently booked in for the administering of a stent and for 6 sessions of agressive chemotherapy
5 After chemotherapy on a Friday she was rushed to hospital on a Monday with very low blood pressure and excessive swelling in her arms and head. The family were told the next 24 - 48 hours were critical
6 She spent two weeks in a hospital
7 Was transferred to a hospice
8 After two weeks in the hospice she was transferred to a place where she can have 24 hour care (This being last Monday)

I am afraid my silence has nothing to do with Simon and pro bono work for Jeremy. In fact, I think it is good Simon has offered his services pro bono.

Sorry to hear of your illness and loss in your family. I also apologise on behalf of others for their misunderstanding of your absence. I do hope your circumstances improve soon. Although it seems that you have still some trials ahead of you?

Grahame

Thank you also for your kind words......... same applies to you as Roch

[chochokeira]

I'm a little disappointed that nobody addressed the point I raised earlier in this thread. Are you not at all suspicious of the time of this event, and the background of the man involved?

As an impartial observer I find it a bit odd...

You can find it as odd as you like but the fact is someone of Simon McKay's standing is not going to risk his reputation for anyone. He will work hard to find the truth whatever way that takes him......he's not so much defending Jeremy but defending what's right. He won't protect anyone if he finds evidence they are in the wrong. The facts will be the facts and those that have haven't lied shouldn't be worried. Currently we are only asking for appeal to be granted by the CCRC.

Very good points there, Vortex +1

[chochokeira]

Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes and I have no doubt in my mind Simon is not on anyone's side only the right side

I will post something in a minute to show Simon is quite prepared to take on anyone who is in the wrong

Jackie

Your post which follows the one quoted above initially details........ 'This forum is all about getting to the truth....'

Re your comment 'Spot on Tyler and as Vortex said silence from Hartley Vidvic. Curious Essex etc speaks volumes...'

The reason I have not been on line much recently is for the following reasons;

1 My father died in August
2 The day after my father's funeral my mother had swellings in her arms (She has a 20 year history of breast cancer)
3 My mother had a scan during the following week and amongst other things leisions on her liver had changed
4 My mother was subsequently booked in for the administering of a stent and for 6 sessions of agressive chemotherapy
5 After chemotherapy on a Friday she was rushed to hospital on a Monday with very low blood pressure and excessive swelling in her arms and head. The family were told the next 24 - 48 hours were critical
6 She spent two weeks in a hospital
7 Was transferred to a hospice
8 After two weeks in the hospice she was transferred to a place where she can have 24 hour care (This being last Monday)

I am afraid my silence has nothing to do with Simon and pro bono work for Jeremy. In fact, I think it is good Simon has offered his services pro bono.

I'm so sorry to hear about your parents, CuriousEssex, God bless them and you.

[SUMMER]

curiousessex, so sorry to read your post with regards to your parents.
I like reading your posts, too, as others have said.
With warm thoughts and kind regards,
Summer

[jackiepreece]

Fort all the antis that think there is something suspicious about Simon being Jeremys solicitor you will see from what I have posted below Simon has no problem speaking out against the police

Interestingly Essex police





@SimonMcKay

Whatever the rights and wrongs of Dale Farm some of the police conduct at least as seen on the BBC tonight is utterly shameful.

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@Robert_HM

@simonmckay the use of tazers in offensive rather than defensive mode was worrying.
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@uknowyourrights

@simonmckay I thought the police acted very professionally and in a restrained manner. But beware of edited highlights.

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@SimonMcKay

@Robert_HM utterly dreadful. The scene of the officer pointing it at the young woman taking notes was quite appalling
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@JohnFGoodfellow

@uknowyourrights @simonmckay At the initial breach, did not the lead officer shout threats to harm a (female) observer?

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@JohnFGoodfellow

@simonmckay @Robert_HM Unlawful?

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 @KentPolFed

@uknowyourrights @simonmckay They had 10 years to leave peacefully. They chose confrontation.
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@Robert_HM

@simonmckay The threats to the Legal Observer was wrong. She was very brave though, stood ground for a while.
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@legalaidlass

@Robert_HM @simonmckay Police officer's threatening waving of taser was absolutely unforgiving. Heavyhanded = understatement. #DaleFarm

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@SimonMcKay

@JohnFGoodfellow@uknowyourrights yes exactly. It was like the G20 all over again

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@uknowyourrights

@JohnFGoodfellow @simonmckay @Robert_HM One thing is for sure. The lawyers have made plenty of money out of this unfortunate event.
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@Bruce2990


@simonmckay Whilst not condoning anything surely people aren't naive enough to not think the BBC may just use 'selected' footage?
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@Robert_HM

@LegalAidLass @simonmckay It certainly not why tazers were introduced, it was to protect when under attack, not as an attack weapon.

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@JohnFGoodfellow

@simonmckay @uknowyourrights Fear not. "The whole world is watching." (The Wombles)
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@SimonMcKay

@Bruce2990 exactly

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@Robert_HM

@Bruce2990 @simonmckay I think we have to accept they do. I always true to restrict comments to what I see.
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@MrAFord1

@legalaidlass @robert_hm @simonmckay great policing, needed doing,10 years to leave, refused!You saying there was no violence the other way?


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@uknowyourrights

@JohnFGoodfellow @simonmckay Not sure. We have a rigorous complaints system and it was videoed. Transparent policing operation.
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 @Bowiegirl


@LegalAidLass @Robert_HM @simonmckay the guy hit him with a lump of wood as far as i saw..
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@JohnFGoodfellow

@uknowyourrights @simonmckay @Robert_HM £10,000,000 and rising. For land.

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@SimonMcKay

@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights that's not a lawful basis to use or indeed threaten to use tasers in the way shown

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@uknowyourrights

@JohnFGoodfellow @simonmckay @Robert_HM Regretable. There must be a better way for all. Quite depressing.
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@SimonMcKay

@bowiegirl @LegalAidLass @Robert_HM not the female observer taking notes
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@Bruce2990

@Robert_HM @simonmckay Unfortunately it is the footage they choose which forms some people's opinions.

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@JohnFGoodfellow


@simonmckay @bowiegirl @LegalAidLass @Robert_HM PCC?
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@SimonMcKay

@MrAFord1 @legalaidlass @robert_hm no I'm saying the police acted outside the law and guidelines for use of tasers
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@JohnFGoodfellow


@uknowyourrights @simonmckay @Robert_HM Yes...(sigh)

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@uknowyourrights

@simonmckay @KentPolFed check out the Conflict Resplution Model. Taser is one above verbal communications. So proportionate.
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@simonmckay

@uknowyourrights @JohnFGoodfellow @Robert_HM agree

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@bowiegirl


@JohnFGoodfellow @simonmckay @LegalAidLass @Robert_HM possibly
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@simonmckay


@uknowyourrights to be proportionate it would have to be considered in respect of each individual. It appeared to be used indiscriminately

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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights Correct. However violence is.

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@JohnFGoodfellow

@uknowyourrights @simonmckay Transparently a misuse of Police resources,time and taxpayers money. Travellers are protected citzens under law
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@MrAFord1


@simonmckay @legalaidlass @robert_hm ridiculous comment,the bloke who got shot was coming towards with a 2 by 4 plank of wood..clearly legal
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@uknowyourrights

@simonmckay Tricky situation. It is what was in the officers mind that any investigation needs to know.

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@JohnFGoodfellow

@simonmckay @uknowyourrights Au contraire, the use was a pre-planned, premeditated circumvention of taser guidelines, statute, & precedent.
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@khan_Sophie


@simonmckay that in my opinion  is a normal day in policing of public order situations. Rough and ready to injure is their medicine.
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@simonmckay


@uknowyourrights providing it was honestly held with good reason

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@uknowyourrights

@simonmckay Touché!

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@DaveThomas152


@simonmckay not seen. How so ?

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@SimonMcKay


@DaveThomas152 best to review the flow Dave I think

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@DaveThomas152


@simonmckay okay u have link to video?
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@SimonMcKay


@DaveThomas152 it was on BBC1
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@MrAFord1


@LegalAidLass @simonmckay @robert_hm they didnt use the tasers on anyone who didn't show aggressive behaviour.The police are entitled safety
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@itsmotherswork


@Bruce2990 @simonmckay  Beeb can't select footage that doesn't exist.  Of course they'll choose the "worst bits", best not to give 'em any.
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@Peter_Kirkham


@simonmckay Which is why almost always impossible to reach conclusion on basis of pics/short piece of CCTV-need wider context&offrs account

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@oldlawyer



@simonmckay as mr strummer said Do you wanna be, do you really wanna be a cop?

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@uknowyourrights


@Peter_Kirkham @simonmckay CCTV can be positively wrong in violent situations. Only 20 percent of what happened.
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@SimonMcKay


@oldlawyer1 sublime
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@SimonMcKay


@uknowyourrights @Peter_Kirkham she had a pen and notebook and identified herself as an observer!
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Robert_HM



@uknowyourrights @JohnFGoodfellow @simonmckay according to the FOI released information there was a substantial amount paid by the fund.

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@uknowyourrights


@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham Surely much better to have a dictaphone and camcorder?
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@SimonMcKay

@uknowyourrights @Peter_Kirkham enter left the BBC

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@uknowyourrights


@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham Agreed but I'd rather have my own evidence.
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@SimonMcKay

@uknowyourrights @Peter_Kirkham either way she didn't represent a threat

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 @KentPolFed



@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham In 21st Century who acts as an observer with pen & pad when every phone is a video camera?
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@legalaidlass


@MrAFord1 @simonmckay @robert_hm Innocent bystanders note-taking also entitled to safety from being threatened by taser-wielding 
policemen..


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@MrAFord1


@LegalAidLass @simonmckay @robert_hm if you see police with tasers telling you to move, you move and don't get shot, simple! That's safety

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@SimonMcKay


@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham does it matter what the state of her IT skills were? She was not a threat!

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@uknowyourrights


@simonmckay @KentPolFed @Peter_Kirkham V tricky situation.
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@SimonMcKay

@MrAFord1 @LegalAidLass @robert_hm no its against the guidelines and prima facie an assault

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 @KentPolFed



@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham The point is whether she was actually an observer!!!
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@SimonMcKay


@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham no, the point is did she represent a threat

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@MrAFord


@simonmckay @legalaidlass @robert_hm if someone wields a weapon and comes forward aggressively, you can't use a tasor.. Rubbish!!

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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham It is irrelevant. After 10 years of court cases the travellers had to go.
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@MrAFord1


@simonmckay @legalaidlass @robert_hm in what situation is it legal?
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@SimonMcKay


@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham how can the issue of threat not be relevant - its the only basis for use of taser

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 @KentPolFed



@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham You focus on one issue. What about bricks, bottles & urine?


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@Peter_kirkham



@simonmckay Didn't see prog tonight.Saw footage on day-she didn't look like target(seemd closer due to foreshortening).Was it clear she was?


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@SimonMcKay

@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham she had a pen and notebook!!!

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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham and.........



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@uknowyourrights

@simonmckay @KentPolFed @Peter_Kirkham We are not going to criticise the officer. We've been there having bricks thrown at us. V tricky
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@SimonMcKay

@uknowyourrights @KentPolFed @Peter_Kirkham she didn't have a brick, she had a pen.
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Peterkirkham



@simonmckay Was it clear she was target? Definitely wasn't (though seemed to be at first glance) on (silent) footage shown on BBC on day

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@DaveThomas

@Peter_Kirkham @simonmckay I once watched CCTV of a guy kicking a bloke on the ground. It didn't show  the other guy armed with a knife

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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham What's your overall view of the operation then?

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@SimonMcKay

@DaveThomas152 @Peter_Kirkham I once watched cctv of police beating a newspaper seller with a stick. Turned out he was just selling papers

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Robert HM



@simonmckay @DaveThomas152 @Peter_Kirkham As for eviction, I blame no individual at this stage, I do "regret" the tactics ordered.


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@Peter_Kirkham


27 October 2011 22:20:15 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay If youre referring to Tomlinson case,he WASN'T "just selling papers".I'm surprised a"Human Rights lawyer"shows such prejudice.

27 October 2011 22:17:49

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@SimonMcKay

@Peter_Kirkham you got me - that justified him being hit by the police with a stick and your absurd allegation I'm prejudiced?

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@Peter_Kirkham


27 October 2011 22:26:15 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay You are NOT stating the facts when you say he was "just selling papers". He wasn't. That is NOT a fact. He was on his way home.
27 October 2011 22:22:41

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@SimonMcKay

@DaveThomas152@Peter_Kirkham I agree and those exceptions should be weeded out. That is in essence my point

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27 October 2011 22:27:52 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham there will always be exceptions granted. But the saying the camera never (cont)http://t.co/M8kSbumU
27 October 2011 22:22:51
by DaveThomas152
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@SimonMcKay


@Peter_Kirkham always feel fairly confident that when the other side resort to rudeness the argument is won actually. Disgraceful


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27 October 2011 22:30:41 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay I do hope you perform better than this for your clients! Where have I commented on justification of use of baton?MORE prejudice!
27 October 2011 22:28:08
by Peter_Kirkham

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@SimonMcKay

@DaveThomas152 a sad realism Dave but your approach to mature debate and intolerance for misconduct instils confidence in the police service
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27 October 2011 22:35:17 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham I now carry a body cam to support my evidence against being hostile, rude or intolerant.
27 October 2011 22:30:47
by DaveThomas152

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@5SAHLaw thank you!

28 October 2011 09:23:46 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham You're not wrong Simon!
28 October 2011 09:22:02
by 5SAHLaw





@TooksPublicLaw thanks so much

28 October 2011 09:24:26 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@Jules_Carey @LifeInCustody@simonmckay Providing an insight into law, practice and life in areas that matter. Wonderful.
28 October 2011 09:
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@SimonMcKay

@uknowyourrights providing it was honestly held with good reason

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27 October 2011 21:14:16 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay Tricky situation. It is what was in the officers mind that any investigation needs to know.
27 October 2011 21:12:22
by knowyourrights
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Simonmckay 


@uknowyourrights@Peter_Kirkham she had a pen and notebook and identified herself as an observer!
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uknowyourrights
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham Surely much better to have a dictaphone and camcorder?

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27 October 2011 21:37:36 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@Peter_Kirkham @simonmckay CCTV can be positively wrong in violent situations. Only 20 percent of what happened.
27 October 2011 21:36:05
by uknowyourrights
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simonmckay 

@uknowyourrights@Peter_Kirkham enter left the BBC

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27 October 2011 21:39:34 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham Surely much better to have a dictaphone and camcorder?
27 October 2011 21:38:46
by uknowyourrights
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Simonmckay 
@uknowyourrights@Peter_Kirkham either way she didn't represent a threat

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27 October 2011 21:44:08 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham Agreed but I'd rather have my own evidence.
27 October 2011 21:42:39
by uknowyourrights

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simonmckay

@KentPolFed@uknowyourrights@peter_kirkham does it matter what the state of her IT skills were? She was not a threat!
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27 October 2011 21:51:22 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@simonmckay @uknowyourrights@peter_kirkham In 21st Century who acts as an observer with pen & pad when every phone is a video camera?
27 October 2011 21:47:26
by KentPolFed
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Legalaidlass

@MrAFord1 @simonmckay @robert_hm Innocent bystanders note-taking also entitled to safety from being threatened by taser-wielding 
policemen..
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simonmckay


@MrAFord1 @LegalAidLass@robert_hm no its against the guidelines and prima facie an assault

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27 October 2011 21:53:01 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
@LegalAidLass @simonmckay @robert_hmif you see police with tasers telling you to move, you move and don't get shot, simple! That's safety
27 October 2011 21:49:40
by MrAFord1
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simonmckay 

@KentPolFed@uknowyourrights@peter_kirkham no, the point is did she represent a threat
mraford1
@simonmckay @legalaidlass @robert_hm if someone wields a weapon and comes forward aggressively, you can't use a tasor.. Rubbish!!
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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham It is irrelevant. After 10 years of court cases the travellers 
had to go.
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Mraford1

@simonmckay @legalaidlass @robert_hm in what situation is it legal?
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@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham how can the issue of threat not be relevant - its the only basis for use of taser

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@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham You focus on one issue. What about bricks, bottles & urine?
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Peterkirkham

@simonmckay Didn't see prog tonight.Saw footage on day-she didn't look like target(seemd closer due to foreshortening).Was it clear she was?
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Simonmckay

@KentPolFed @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham she had a pen and notebook!!!
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 @KentPolFed

@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham and.........
27 October 2011 21:54:14 
from Twitter for BlackBerry®
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Ukknowyourrights

@simonmckay @KentPolFed @Peter_Kirkham We are not going to criticise the officer. We've been there having bricks thrown at us. V tricky
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Simonmckay

@uknowyourrights @KentPolFed @Peter_Kirkham she didn't have a brick, she had a pen.
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Peterkirkham

@simonmckay Was it clear she was target? Definitely wasn't (though seemed to be at first glance) on (silent) footage shown on BBC on day
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DaveThomas

@Peter_Kirkham @simonmckay I once watched CCTV of a guy kicking a bloke on the ground. It didn't show  the other guy armed with a knife
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 @KentPolFed


@simonmckay @uknowyourrights @peter_kirkham What's your overall view of the operation then?
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Simonmckay

@DaveThomas152 @Peter_Kirkham I once watched cctv of police beating a newspaper seller with a stick. Turned out he was just selling papers
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Robert fm


@simonmckay @DaveThomas152 @Peter_Kirkham As for eviction, I blame no individual at this stage, I do "regret" the tactics ordered.
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Peterkirkham

@simonmckay If youre referring to Tomlinson case,he WASN'T "just selling papers".I'm surprised a"Human Rights lawyer"shows such prejudice.
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Simonmckay

@Peter_Kirkham A jury concluded he was unlawfully killed. I'm stating the facts and I'm not showing the slightest 
prejudice

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@Peter_Kirkham

@simonmckay You are NOT stating the facts when you say he was "just selling papers". He wasn't. That is NOT a fact. He was on his way home.
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Dave Thomas

@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham there will always be exceptions granted. But the saying the camera never (cont) http://t.co/

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Simonmckay 


@Peter_Kirkham you got me - that justified him being hit by the police with a stick and your absurd allegation I'm prejudiced?

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Simonmckay 


@DaveThomas152 @Peter_Kirkham I agree and those exceptions should be weeded out. That is in essence my point

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@Peter_Kirkham


@simonmckay I do hope you perform better than this for your clients! Where have I commented on justification of use of baton?MORE prejudice!
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Simonmckay


@Peter_Kirkham always feel fairly confident that when the other side resort to rudeness the argument is won actually. Disgraceful
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Dave Thomas


@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham I now carry a body cam to support my evidence against being hostile, rude or intolerant.
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Davethomas


@simonmckay @Peter_Kirkham seems I am held to be a lier unless I can prove otherwise, courts believe defendant not police officer
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@Peter_Kirkham

@simonmckay Well you'd be wrong then. I'm frankly amazed that a lawyer can feel able to misrepresent things so blatantly. Appalling.
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Toomanybluye

@Peter_Kirkham @simonmckay stop bickering boys

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Simonmckay


@DaveThomas152 a sad realism Dave but your approach to mature debate and intolerance for misconduct instils confidence in the police service
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Dave Thomas

@simonmckay I try. There is no better feeling than holding ones head up high in the box and telling the truth. Besides I'm not a good lier

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[grahameb]

You'd think he would have a longer list?