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Jeremys Good News
« on: October 22, 2011, 11:38:AM »
After only having the help and support of Mike to help Jeremy when he had nobody else and then to have the help and support of Ngb just unbeleivably brilliant to now having the equally brilliant Simon McKay as Jeremys new solicitor

What a dream team.

Good morning Mr Lamberton and Mrs Eaton not long now

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 11:51:AM »
Brilliant news Jackie. When brilliant legal minds like ngb and Simon McKay take these things seriously then this proves we aint been talking a load of rubbish as some would like you to believe. When these people say there is something wrong with JB's conviction then there is something wrong with his conviction.

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 11:53:AM »
After only having the help and support of Mike to help Jeremy when he had nobody else and then to have the help and support of Ngb just unbeleivably brilliant to now having the equally brilliant Simon McKay as Jeremys new solicitor

What a dream team.

Good morning Mr Lamberton and Mrs Eaton not long now


Isn't it brilliant, Jackie, I'm as excited as you are and with good reason, Simon McKay's a top man. Huge kudos to you for this Jackie, Jeremy now has the expert help of NGB and Simon McKay solely thanks to your hard work in making contact with them.

Well done that woman! x

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 12:16:PM »
Well done Jackie !!

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 12:51:PM »
http://www.mckaylaw.co.uk/Solicitors/simon.htm

It states he will defend in some cases but only after careful consideration of the papers.  I think that sends a message out to those on here and elsewhere, who persistently seek to downplay the credibility of some defence arguments, whether they stem from Mike's research or from campaign sources.

Well done Jackie.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 01:05:PM »
Seems to have been a busy fella delving in to certain areas of law quite deeply...


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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 01:11:PM »
Covert Policing?  ::)

He will have met his match with EP.  You cannot get any more covert than them in this case... surely?

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 01:28:PM »
This is very good news Jackie and thank you for sharing the information, i trust Jeremy is feeling more confident of a breakthrough soon, this puts the balence more in his favour splendid news +1.

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 01:37:PM »
Well, McKay helped to make MP's expense details public:

From the Yorkshire Post Monday 18 May 2009 09:30

"Simon McKay: If our politicians stand accused, then we should let a jury decide their fate
Published on Monday 18 May 2009 09:30

LAST summer, I received a telephone call from The Sunday Telegraph's home affairs correspondent Ben Leapman asking me to act for him in connection with High Court proceedings issued by the Speaker of the House of Commons.

The proceedings were an appeal against his successful battle before the Information Tribunal to get access to a number of politicians' expense claims.




Despite five years of determined effort to obtain the details of how Members of Parliament spent taxpayers' money, it seemed that the House of Commons was still not prepared to capitulate and hand the material over.




I agreed to represent Ben and appeared before the President of the Queen's Bench Division of the High Court in London and two other senior High Court judges.




I was standing alongside a formidable team of QCs and other barristers, most of whom were instructed by the Treasury Solicitor in a final effort to prevent the details of expenses becoming public.




In the event, despite hours and hours of preparation, I had to say little; the judges were not impressed by the arguments advanced by the Speaker of the House of Commons and ruled against him. This judgment was the catalyst for the current furore surrounding the revelation of MPs' expenses.




After an adverse ruling by the High Court, most would deal with the consequences, possibly with humility but as a minimum at least with some reluctance. Members of Parliament, on one view, should be more prepared to observe the rule of law since they are part of the machinery of the executive and our elected representatives. But since the High Court ruling all that appears to have happened is further procrastination by MPs to confront the inevitable complaints that these matters are being made public at all and, perhaps most inappropriately, for the "bloodfest" to stop.




Certainly there is a dearth of apologies, either for the audacious claims some have made in the first place or once they have been caught out. Most seem to think that paying the money back is redemption enough.




If you or I put in a false or exaggerated claim for expenses knowingly or recklessly we could expect the full force of the criminal law to be brought down on us. To justify the arrest and interview of an individual under caution all that is needed is reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed. This is a fairly easy standard to meet and the evidence alone of a false or misleading expenses claim would be sufficient.




The offences that may be committed include deception, described simply but eloquently by Mr Justice Buckley in 1903 as "to induce a man to believe that a thing is true which is false", which carries a maximum prison term of 10 years on conviction before the Crown Court. It can cover offences of deception committed by false representation but also omission.




There are also other offences of dishonesty or fraud that could properly be considered. Where more than one MP may have encouraged others to exploit the system, offences under the new Serious Crime Act 2006 could also be considered (described by one professor of law recently as a "prosecutor's dream"). They are relatively easy to prove and difficult to defend. The question for a jury will generally be whether the individual "must have realised that what he was doing was by the standards of reasonable and honest people dishonest".




If this doesn't force an MP who may have made an improper claim to break into a cold sweat, he or she may do well to reflect that the jury may include members of their constituency whose house has been repossessed, who have lost their job or who are confronting mounting debt, whilst he or she has been claiming for mortgages already paid, the cleaning of their swimming pool or even for trouser presses.




It is difficult to see why the public has to wait for a private prosecution to be brought against politicians when, if it was anyone else, they would be suspended, summarily dismissed and probably arrested, interviewed and charged.




I recall one case a few years ago when a woman was accused of stealing 5 from her employer. A private detective went into the shop where she worked, purported to buy an item, threw the money on the counter and left the shop claiming they needed to run for the bus. She was accused of not putting the money through the till. She was arrested, interrogated for hours and charged with theft. She lost her job, a vital source of income for her and her family and nearly lost her marriage.




No-one checked the till roll and, after weeks of badgering, eventually I was allowed access to the shop's records (there were dozens of till rolls scattered everywhere) and eventually found the roll for that day's takings. There at exactly the time the purchase took place was the entry of 5. The case against her was dropped, without apology or compensation. Why should she be treated less favourably than her elected representative?




Arguably, you could go further and ask why those who seek to represent us shouldn't be expected to conduct themselves to a higher standard.




Calls can be made for public inquiries, for a new independent watchdog to be established, or for measures to be introduced to restore confidence.




None of this is necessary. Arrest and, where appropriate, charge suspected MPs with criminal offences.




Let the juries acquit or convict them. This will create some accountability and may deter others from engaging in similar acts of dishonesty in the future."


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/columnists/simon_mckay_if_our_politicians_stand_accused_then_we_should_let_a_jury_decide_their_fate_1_2347752

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Re: Jeremys Good News
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 01:51:PM »
From what I can gather of him, he seems to be a good egg who doesn't like rotten eggs?
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2011, 01:56:PM »
Hes based in my neck of the woods too!!

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2011, 01:59:PM »
He sounds a fine man a crusader to expose the stench of lies, corruption and dishonour, Elliott Morley our former MP thought he was protected by his position in those expenses scandal the pratt who had his £3000 rolex watch nicked out his cell bring it on.

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2011, 02:01:PM »
He sounds a fine man a crusader to expose the stench of lies, corruption and dishonour, Elliott Morley our former MP thought he was protected by his position in those expenses scandal the pratt who had his £3000 rolex watch nicked out his cell bring it on.
It takes a thief to recognise a Rolex. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 02:05:PM »
Trolls come out come out where ever you are ...

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2011, 02:20:PM »
So happy today for Jeremy and for all his amazing supporters who have taken so much flak just for trying to get to the truth

The scales of justice have definately leaned towards Jeremy being proved innocent

Rochys avatar genius it's the cover of Simons book

If anyone would like to know more about Simon read his posts on twitter, not only is he an excellent lawyer but he is compassionate and has a very big heart