WAS JUNE INVOLVED

[clifford]

I find it hard to believe that Sheila was responsible for all of the murders, becausse of the reasons put forward.
 What if both women at WHF decided decided this was the way to go to save everyone
It is common knowledge that both Sheila, and June were religious fanatics, albeit that Sheila in her fragile state was coersed.
Was any fingernail scapings taken from June, as I think she may have been trying to pull Ralph upright, and that is where his arm injuries may have taken place.
Is it beyond reality that Shiela and June were workin together.
Shiela believed her sons were possessed, and capable of having sex with her.
June frowned apon sex, and make the children pray at every opportunity.
Colin was so worried about this that he wrote Ralph to express his concerns.
Do not get up in arms about this, as I am only asking for your input.
Regards Cliff.

[mertol22]

Cliff without viewing Junes fatal injuries im sure June had the worst of them, its no secret that June and Sheila never really got on.I only picture Sheila on a rampage .

[clifford]

Cliff without viewing Junes fatal injuries im sure June had the worst of them, its no secret that June and Sheila never really got on.I only picture Sheila on a rampage .

This my point. It seems that Shiela hated her mum, but had a common cause.
June may have thought she was doing the kids a favour.
If we are to believe that Jeremy did not do this, then it was someone else in the house, and I cannot believe it was Shiela alone.
Of course this is only speculation, and I only posted for debate, not as fact.
Regards.

[nugnug]

but ralphs phone call never made any mention of june.

[clifford]

but ralphs pjone call never made any mention of june.

We are not certain of the phone call, but it could have all happened AFTER the call Nugnug

[mertol22]

Apart from June not putting up a fight   i dont see how she could be involved other than a victim.

[grahameb]

I'm not quite sure what a religious fanatic is? If you would say that June had strong beliefs then that might be a better term to use? Unfortunately because Sheila was disturbed mentally her religion became warped and unbalanced. She did not believe the same as June did according to Colin Caffells book. Unfortunately this distortion of belief grew worse and in my6 opinion culminated in the deaths of her immediate family and herself.

[mertol22]

as i see it reading in search of the rainbows end, colin is saying its June s law almost you will pray, the twins clearly were not happy and we have seen this in those drawings the twins drew , if we can establish at what time on that night  something changed, after Jeremy left, a reason has to exist as to why Sheila started the shootings and the only one i can think of is she was told in her mind to begin.

[clifford]

I'm not quite sure what a religious fanatic is? If you would say that June had strong beliefs then that might be a better term to use? Unfortunately because Sheila was disturbed mentally her religion became warped and unbalanced. She did not believe the same as June did according to Colin Caffells book. Unfortunately this distortion of belief grew worse and in my6 opinion culminated in the deaths of her immediate family and herself.

I dont know what a fanatic is either. but someone who makes children pray at every opportunity fits the bill for me.
Colin raised this with Ralph, and threatened to keep the children away.
According to colin the children hated going to and the farm and who can blame them. It must have been awful.
Granny made them pray whenever they were alone with her.
This in itself is not normal.
Grannies make their grandchildren happy, not sad.
The childrens pictures tell a story.

[andrea]

june had the twins pray even when brushing their teeth

[grahameb]

june had the twins pray even when brushing their teeth

Bet that was difficult.

[clifford]

june had the twins pray even when brushing their teeth

Bet that was difficult.

[andrea]

its true, its in colins book

[mertol22]

makes you wonder who carved i hate this place ,

[andrea]

it was accepted at court that it was sheila mertol