the panic button

[nugnug]

now i believe Nevile bamber had a panic button installed shortly before the murders.

so how come never pressed it.

[grahameb]

now i believe Nevile bamber had a panic button installed shortly before the murders.

so how come never pressed it.

Panic buttons are generally designed for people who are ill and who need medical attention immediately. Possibly because (1) he hardly every used it. Therefore forgot to use it? Or (2) He couldn't reach it. But the same question would apply if his assailant was a "hit man", Jeremy, or Sheila.

[andrea]

grahame, how long before the shootings did neville get the black eye? is it known?

[andrea]

put the above  ? on the wrong thread 

[grahameb]

grahame, how long before the shootings did neville get the black eye? is it known?

I don't know Andrea. I think it was a matter of days? But in any case the bruise would have been identified as an old injury because by that time it was possibly beginning to yellow? But the short answer is I don't know. Perhaps someone else might?

[grahameb]

put the above  ? on the wrong thread 

Hmm not sure how to handle that one?

[Steve A]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

[grahameb]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

I'm not sure if it was supposed to have been Peter Eaton or Robert Boutflour? But I think it was posted on forum some time agao?

[Steve A]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

I'm not sure if it was supposed to have been Peter Eaton or Robert Boutflour? But I think it was posted on forum some time agao?

It's in the thread that I linked to, which states it was John Eaton.

[grahameb]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

I'm not sure if it was supposed to have been Peter Eaton or Robert Boutflour? But I think it was posted on forum some time agao?

It's in the thread that I linked to, which states it was John Eaton.

I think there must be some confusion on the forum as to who it was? Some say it was Peter Eaton, some John Eaton, some David Boutflour. But I rather think it was Robert Boutflour who was around the same age as Ralph Bamber?

[Steve A]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

I'm not sure if it was supposed to have been Peter Eaton or Robert Boutflour? But I think it was posted on forum some time agao?

It's in the thread that I linked to, which states it was John Eaton.

I think there must be some confusion on the forum as to who it was? Some say it was Peter Eaton, some John Eaton, some David Boutflour. But I rather think it was Robert Boutflour who was around the same age as Ralph Bamber?

Well this is where it comes from, which is quite clear. Unless there are other sources which I have not seen, which is entirely and very possible.

[grahameb]

Is Peter Eatons name John, or his middle name?

It's just that the evidence regarding this punching incident seems to accuse John Eaton (whoever the hell he is) and not Peter Eaton, so I'm a little confused by this.

The documents are attached to the beginning of this thread, take a look:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1132.msg34674.html#msg34674

I'm not sure if it was supposed to have been Peter Eaton or Robert Boutflour? But I think it was posted on forum some time agao?

It's in the thread that I linked to, which states it was John Eaton.

I think there must be some confusion on the forum as to who it was? Some say it was Peter Eaton, some John Eaton, some David Boutflour. But I rather think it was Robert Boutflour who was around the same age as Ralph Bamber?

Well this is where it comes from, which is quite clear. Unless there are other sources which I have not seen, which is entirely and very possible.

Yes we can't dispute that it was Eaton (John) interesting.

[Steve A]

Yes we can't dispute that it was Eaton (John) interesting.

Right, I vaguely feel like I'm getting somewhere with this.

In Shaw's Manuscript it says:

What was also kept very hush-hush by the family was that Ann’s husband, Peter, had punched Nevill in the face prior to the killings, after a heated argument regarding a contentious land deal. The references to this incident are contained in Police Action Report 1113: ‘(Peter) Eaton punching Nevill Bamber.’

Now this is one of the rare occasions in which Shaw gives a source for his findings, the source is Police Action Report 1113. Which is the document I posted above and does not refer to Peter Eaton at all.

Seems like you've been sold a dummy on this one. Seems like that to me anyway.

What do you think?

[grahameb]

Yes we can't dispute that it was Eaton (John) interesting.

Right, I vaguely feel like I'm getting somewhere with this.

In Shaw's Manuscript it says:

What was also kept very hush-hush by the family was that Ann’s husband, Peter, had punched Nevill in the face prior to the killings, after a heated argument regarding a contentious land deal. The references to this incident are contained in Police Action Report 1113: ‘(Peter) Eaton punching Nevill Bamber.’

Now this is one of the rare occasions in which Shaw gives a source for his findings, the source is Police Action Report 1113. Which is the document I posted above and does not refer to Peter Eaton at all.

Seems like you've been sold a dummy on this one. Seems like that to me anyway.

What do you think?

Not sure about it. I was only interested in it so far as it relating to Ralph's murder in that the black eye might have been interpreted as happening on the night of the murder, thus giving the impression that Ralph had fought with his assailant? I always thought it was Robert Boutflour who punched him? Who John Eaton is? Perhaps Keira could help on that one? She the research brains on here.

[smiffy]

Not everyone uses their real first name and sometimes they use other christian names etc or adopt another name they prefer to be called by.
Otherwise the witness may have made an innocent mistake on the person's first name.
The subject matter of the discussion mentioned fits with it being Peter Eaton and would be unlikely in the extreme to be anyone else in my view.