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Timing of phone call - made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford
« on: January 03, 2011, 06:50:PM »
Timing of phone call -  made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford (03:30am)...

Julie Mugford  originally timed the call she received from Jeremy, at 3:30am - which was after Jeremy received the call from is father at 03:25am, and some six (6) minutes, before Jeremy made his call to the police, at 03:36am...

It is important to recount, exactly what Jeremy, said to Julie, at this time - he simply told her that "there was something wrong at the farm" but Julie told him, "to go back to bed"...

He told her "there was something wrong at the farm", because Jeremy had received a call from his father at whf (03:25am), telling Jeremy, that his sister, Sheila had "got the gun", and that "she was going crazy", and for Jeremy "to come to the farm", at which stage the line had "gone dead", as if the connection between whf, and Jeremy's cottage, had been cut off, and although Jeremy had been trying to re-establish contact with his father at the farm, how he had kept getting the engaged tone...

Jeremy did not accurately know, why he kept getting the engaged tone, every time he tried to re-establish contact with his father at whf, but he assumed that his father must be "talking to someone else on the phone", hence the reason for the constant engaged tone?

Jeremy did not know that Ralph, was speaking to the police, from 03:26am, onwards...

It was under these general circumstances, that Jeremy made the call to Julie Mugford, at 03:30am, followed by Jeremy's call to the police, at 03:36am (six minutes later)...


It remains possible, that Jeremy tried to re-establish contact with whf, before he called Julie, (prior to 03:30am),  and afterwards, (in between 03:30 and 03:36am), before he made the call to the police, at 03:36am - in which he would have been met with the constant engaged tone, which he has always spoken about...

This explanation, gives an honest and accurate account of what took place, involving the circumstances, in-which Jeremy made the call to Julie Mugford, at 03:30am...


This evidence was gathered from Julie Mugford, and Jeremy Bamber, as part of the original file, "FOUR MURDERS and a SUICIDE", under, SC/688/85


« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 07:04:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Timing of phone call - made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 07:07:PM »
Timing of call to Julie Mugford, changed to 03:15am, when nature of investigation, altered, into "A FULL MURDER INVESTIGATON, under SC/786/85. from 7th September 1985, onwards...

DS "Stan" Jones, got Julie Mugford, to amend the timing of the call she received from Jeremy, to try and disorientate him, and to allow the police, to wrongly suggest that Jeremy had made the call to Julie, before the timing of the first telephone call, which was made to the police by Ralph Bamber, at 03:26am - not the one Jeremy had made himself to the police, timed at 03:36am...

By this stage (SC/786/85) the police were intent on merging both telephone calls (03:26am and 03:36am) together, as though only one call had been made, and they sought to wrongly suggest that Jeremy had made the call to the police, timed at 03:26am (the call made by Ralph Bamber), and but for the existence of the two different police records, one timed at 03:26am, and the other, timed at 03:36am, the police would have got away with such a deception - because the mistake made by the police, was that no-one was suggesting that Jeremy had called the police twice, on two separate occasions, only that he had called the police once...

Jeremy could not have called the police, once at 03:26am, and for a second time, at 03:36am - a feature which confirms, that Ralph Bamber must have called the police, and reported the circumstances of what was taking place inside whf, by 03:26am...

Jeremy Bambers account, therefore, that he received a call from his father informing him that his "sister had got the gun" and that "she was going crazy", which led to Jeremy eventually calling the police, at 03:36am, must be true and accurate...
« Last Edit: January 03, 2011, 07:20:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Timing of phone call - made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 02:52:PM »
mike ? who was the phone call to from the phone box and what time was it

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Re: Timing of phone call - made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 09:57:PM »
mike ? who was the phone call to from the phone box and what time was it
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Call from phone box, was made by Jeremy, who was taken away from the scene by a police officer, to a phone box in the village - this took place shortly after the arrival of armed police at the scene (at 5am). The call was made by Jeremy, to Julie Mugford...

Call was made to Julie Mugford, at about 5:30am...

Prior to this, Jeremy had remained at the scene long enough for him to provide a diagram showing the general layout of the farmhouse, and the rooms inside, which individual members of the family might be sleeping in, and the number of firearms and ammunitions there was present at the farm etc...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...