Theories are pointless if not submitted to the CCRC

[Adam]

There is no reliable evidence that Bews, Miller and JM were suspicious of JB in the immediate aftermath unlike DS Jones and the relatives. 

CC knew SC well, being her former husband, and he did not suspect JB. 

The mistake JB made was allowing his relatives to have any involvement especially giving them a key to WHF.  He was naivety personified.  He was unable to see his relatives for what they were/are and that is shameless vultures.   

Bews & Miller are on video saying so.

Julie's WS says she was suspicious. Not surprised as Jeremy had often spoken about it.

[Adam]

The police will often change direction on a case. Or they will simultaneously be carrying out multiple lines of enquiry.

Don't even think Jeremy's case was a change of direction. The official line to the media on the day was murder/suicide. But behind the scenes experts were looking at the crime scene, the relatives were suspicious & Julie was breaking.

Jeremy doing himself no favours by going on multiple jolly ups, leaving WHF unattended & trying to sell photos.

It was only a month until he was charged.

[ILB]

So why do you doubt the police regularly fitted up when it happened regularly?

I think he probably was financially incentivised but plenty of officers fitted up without a financial incentive.

Maybe PE made an installment and then when it got to deep he never followed up and Stan couldn't obviously say something.

I get your point on the 80s, I just don't think theyd attempt it in this case.

If evidence ever surfaces after 40 years to prove an elobrate stitch up. Then I'm corrected.

[ILB]

The police will often change direction on a case. Or they will simultaneously be carrying out multiple lines of enquiry.

Don't even think Jeremy's case was a change of direction. The official line to the media on the day was murder/suicide. But behind the scenes experts were looking at the crime scene, the relatives were suspicious & Julie was breaking.

Jeremy doing himself no favours by going on multiple jolly ups, leaving WHF unattended & trying to sell photos.

It was only a month until he was charged.

Stan is on record saying he felt Jeremy's jovial manner and the English breakfasts etc is what got alarm bells ringing.

Stan didn't like JB from the outset.

[Adam]

Stan is on record saying he felt Jeremy's jovial manner and the English breakfasts etc is what got alarm bells ringing.

Stan didn't like JB from the outset.

Similar to Tracie Andrews, the police didn't really change direction. But they had to release Andrew's version to the media as evidence had not been processed. Andrews even gave a press conference.

Lee Harvey's relatives were suspicious of Andrews.

[David1819]

Stan is on record saying he felt Jeremy's jovial manner and the English breakfasts etc is what got alarm bells ringing.

Stan didn't like JB from the outset.

There is no evidence SJ and the lab planted the SM and then got the relatives to say they found it.

[ILB]

There is no evidence SJ and the lab planted the SM and then got the relatives to say they found it.

I don't buy a fit up in this particular case, a headstrong confident articulate farmer who completley held his own in his interviews was never cowered.

It would be madness to frame a bereaved soon to be substantially wealthy man from the police's point of view.

[ILB]

Seen as though now JBs voice has been stopped by HMP Wakefield I can assume he will be trying to get a transfer to another cat A jail such as Frankland, or maybe back to Full Sutton.

[ngb1066]

Seen as though now JBs voice has been stopped by HMP Wakefield I can assume he will be trying to get a transfer to another cat A jail such as Frankland, or maybe back to Full Sutton.

I do not think there is any mechanism for requesting a transfer.  The move from Full Sutton to Wakefield was not made at the request of JB. 

[ILB]

I do not think there is any mechanism for requesting a transfer.  The move from Full Sutton to Wakefield was not made at the request of JB.

There was years ago.  A lot of times lifers for example always would put in a transfer closer to home to make family visitations easier. It wasn't always granted.

Fellow I knew from the north East wanted a transfer to Frankland from long lartin but this was thwarted because he was disruptive and always down the block on GOAD.

[ILB]

Suppose Jordan's solicitors is close to HMP Wakefield.

[ILB]

I do not think there is any mechanism for requesting a transfer.  The move from Full Sutton to Wakefield was not made at the request of JB.

No CAT As regularly get ghosted.