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Offline ILB

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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2026, 09:17:PM »
He had lots of chances with the silencer.

Take it off before shooting Sheila.

Clean it before putting it away.

Go back to WHF & clean it before the relatives went inside.

Can you imagine the emotions and adrenalin?

We are armchair theorists with the benefit of history and hindsight.
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2026, 09:30:PM »
Can you imagine the emotions and adrenalin?

We are armchair theorists with the benefit of history and hindsight.

Can only think he did not clean or dispose of the silencer as not aware of back spatter.

Otherwise he would not have shot her with the silencer on in the first place.

The frustrating thing for him is if not aware of back spatter, he still didn't need to have the silencer on when shooting Sheila. By now everyone else was dead.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2026, 09:32:PM by Adam »
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2026, 09:49:PM »
I wonder how things would have gone if Jeremy had never said that Neville phoned him. Would the staged scene by itself have been enough to persuade police other than Taff that it was murder/suicide?
Remember Jeremy had had months of preparation in his own mind how he was going to execute the massacre, in particular to establish an alibi, which he decided would be established through the police. The frightening thing is he almost got away with it.

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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2026, 03:08:PM »
Most inheritence killers are not forensically aware. Not so much now as there is so much available information. However they escalate from nothing to murder.

In Jeremy's case, his biggest crime was the caravan break in. Where he threw a few papers around & thought everyone would believe it was a burglar. Doubtful Nevill believed him but at the time he was not prosecuted.

On the 7th August he felt rifle on Sheila, windows shut, tell EP Sheila is a looney - home free.
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2026, 05:37:PM »
Most inheritence killers are not forensically aware. Not so much now as there is so much available information. However they escalate from nothing to murder.

In Jeremy's case, his biggest crime was the caravan break in. Where he threw a few papers around & thought everyone would believe it was a burglar. Doubtful Nevill believed him but at the time he was not prosecuted.

On the 7th August he felt rifle on Sheila, windows shut, tell EP Sheila is a looney - home free.

As said on paper looking at it nuetrally there was in many ways a perfect scapegoat. Lots of inheritance killings don't have that aspect. In fact I can't think of any off the top of my head. A woman with documented mental health problems as an alternative suspect.

He must have anticipated the relatives mistrust of himself though. Within half an hour of condolences they were badgering him on his account of the events.

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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2026, 05:44:PM »
Most inheritence killers are not forensically aware. Not so much now as there is so much available information. However they escalate from nothing to murder.

In Jeremy's case, his biggest crime was the caravan break in. Where he threw a few papers around & thought everyone would believe it was a burglar. Doubtful Nevill believed him but at the time he was not prosecuted.


Did he confess to Nevill of the break in pre massacre?

I know he confessed to police but there's very little about nevill confronting him about etc.
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2026, 05:49:PM »
Seems though the relatives may have had doubts for example wanting black flowers on shelias coffin.

Interestingly very little was heard from PB on the whole situation. Who was June's sister. She is the only one who didn't seem to throw dirt on Jeremy. Whereas RB and AE were throwing dirt on him from the outset subtly.
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2026, 06:08:PM »
Did he confess to Nevill of the break in pre massacre?

I know he confessed to police but there's very little about nevill confronting him about etc.
No, but James Carr knew and Robert Boutflour, who also suspected Jeremy, would have told Nevill. June would not have involved police.

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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2026, 09:15:PM »
The 23 things he should have done inside WHF could all be done.

Shooting Sheila without the silencer/not giving her a contact shot was easy. Ditto putting GSR on her.

But he had a lack of experience & knowledge together with being over confident.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2026, 09:24:PM by Adam »
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Re: Things Jeremy should have done inside WHF
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2026, 09:43:PM »
The 23 things he should have done inside WHF could all be done.

Shooting Sheila without the silencer/not giving her a contact shot was easy. Ditto putting GSR on her.

But he had a lack of experience & knowledge together with being over confident.
Over-confident and in a jovial mood. https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/b-england-chelmsford-extanne-leuchars-i-c-outside-court-news-footage/1274965375