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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2026, 07:47:PM »
But JB is not the one claiming it was unusual to use the rilfe purchased in '84 sans sights/silencer.
Why did Jeremy wish to buy a 5 repeater 12 bore shotgun in July 1985?

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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2026, 09:45:PM »
Why did Jeremy wish to buy a 5 repeater 12 bore shotgun in July 1985?

Because it is a very efficient shotgun and would be useful for game shooting.  Unfortunately he did not realise that shooting etiquete was firmly based upon 19th century customs which continue to this day.  Semi-automatic shotguns are not welcome on organised shoots in the UK and the double barreled shotgun, either side by side (traditional) or over and under (more recently accepted) are expected.  Semi-automatic shotguns are used for wildfowling and some vermin control.

 


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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2026, 09:47:PM »
Why did Jeremy wish to buy a 5 repeater 12 bore shotgun in July 1985?

To go shooting with the landlord of chequers, Jeremy's local.
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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2026, 09:27:AM »
Why did Jeremy wish to buy a 5 repeater 12 bore shotgun in July 1985?

For the same reason I would like an air rifle...to shoot pigeons in my garden!  But it is too complicated now with all the rules and regulations and some object to it from an ethical perspective.   

Afaik he wanted the shotgun to shoot pigeons at the bottom of his garden. 
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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2026, 08:16:PM »
There seem multiple reasons advanced above, which makes one wonder about the real motive, that of granting him an alternative weapon of execution: five bullets for five victims and a clean kill.

Not in strict chronological order, but the month preceding the murders offers an insight into his mind: the prescient knowledge relayed to Ann that they would in the near future be running the caravan park together, his boasting that he could convince anyone of anything, the annual allowance June was about to grant her daughter, his admission to Andrew Bishop on the occasion of his stag night that he may be mentally ill akin to his sister.

The giveaway was the birthday card sent to Ann in late September 1984, by which time the murder plan was already germinating in his mind, knowing that he had to endeavour to keep his cousin onside. The remark to Colin at the Saturday party that Nicholas and Daniel were "a millstone round his neck" was an attempt at justification of the diablerie he was about to perpetrate. He had to be in control, he had achieved de facto control at the time of the murders and he still attempts vindication from a prison cell by maintaining innocence, thereby keeping a modicum of control over adherents to his cause, whilst the shocking truth for all his deceitful stories was as he told Julie: "For the way they have treated me my parents have forfeited the right to live."
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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2026, 08:21:PM »
For the same reason I would like an air rifle...to shoot pigeons in my garden!  But it is too complicated now with all the rules and regulations and some object to it from an ethical perspective.   

Afaik he wanted the shotgun to shoot pigeons at the bottom of his garden.
You wouldn't really shoot innocent pigeons would you, Cutes?

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Re: Silencer: either it was fabricated or Jeremy is guilty
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2026, 12:35:PM »
There seem multiple reasons advanced above, which makes one wonder about the real motive, that of granting him an alternative weapon of execution: five bullets for five victims and a clean kill.

Not in strict chronological order, but the month preceding the murders offers an insight into his mind: the prescient knowledge relayed to Ann that they would in the near future be running the caravan park together, his boasting that he could convince anyone of anything, the annual allowance June was about to grant her daughter, his admission to Andrew Bishop on the occasion of his stag night that he may be mentally ill akin to his sister.

The giveaway was the birthday card sent to Ann in late September 1984, by which time the murder plan was already germinating in his mind, knowing that he had to endeavour to keep his cousin onside. The remark to Colin at the Saturday party that Nicholas and Daniel were "a millstone round his neck" was an attempt at justification of the diablerie he was about to perpetrate. He had to be in control, he had achieved de facto control at the time of the murders and he still attempts vindication from a prison cell by maintaining innocence, thereby keeping a modicum of control over adherents to his cause, whilst the shocking truth for all his deceitful stories was as he told Julie: "For the way they have treated me my parents have forfeited the right to live."

Work of fiction and not very good fiction at that! 

1/10 for neat handwriting.   
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