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Offline Jane

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #570 on: January 11, 2026, 09:42:PM »
After a bit of investigation, it may be possible to be knocked out and then fall asleep, as it were, HB?

Snow, I don't know whether your theory is getting more stupid or more boring! You appear to be adding later upon layer of "What ifs" , which combine to make it more improbable and even less believable! "Knocked out" come round "then fall asleep" !!! Next instalment?

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« Reply #571 on: January 11, 2026, 09:49:PM »
Snow, I don't know whether your theory is getting more stupid or more boring! You appear to be adding later upon layer of "What ifs" , which combine to make it more improbable and even less believable! "Knocked out" come round "then fall asleep" !!! Next instalment?
No, it is actually quite common to get knocked out and immediately fall into natural sleep, Jane!
Check it out! Ask Grok or whatever!

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« Reply #572 on: January 11, 2026, 10:02:PM »
After a bit of investigation, it may be possible to be knocked out and then fall asleep, as it were, HB?

a person must first regain consciousness (become alert and aware) to go back to sleep; if they are unconscious, they aren't aware enough to initiate sleep, and while they might drift into deeper unconsciousness or a coma, sleep requires some level of awareness and brain activity, so first responders focus on getting them to breathe and calling for emergency help if they don't quickly wake up after fainting.

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« Reply #573 on: January 11, 2026, 10:12:PM »
After a bit of investigation, it may be possible to be knocked out and then fall asleep, as it were, HB?
Anything is possible Snow when it’s convenient, to me there’s too many hurdles to cross to make the Aga theory work, one it requires police moving Neville, we’ve already seen what complications comes with that.

 Yours is better because you’ve eliminated police involvement and got Neville where he was found and where evidence shows, I like the fact that the broken rifle stock is in the vicinity as well,   but it’s a very big ask for the four hour knockout and I’m sure your quite aware of this if your truthful.  I think it’s knocked (excuse the pun) you out a little with the thought of it extended another hour or possible more

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« Reply #574 on: January 11, 2026, 10:14:PM »
A loss of consciousness lasting less than 30 minutes is classified as a Mild TBI, which includes most concussions. If the LOC extends beyond 30 minutes but lasts for less than 24 hours, the injury is categorized as a Moderate TBI
Yes, you seem to be right , Rob! This is what Grok said---
 
     1.Moderate Traumatic Brain injury/concussion with prolonged loss of consciousness.
      In medical classification of traumatic brain injury [TBI]

  Mild-usually Loc<30 minutes[often much shorter]
  Moderate- Loc  Typically 30minutes up to 24 hours.
  Severe-  Loc> 34hours.

  A 4hour period of unconsciousness after a head injury would usually be classified as a moderate TBI.

 Many people with moderate brain injuries do regain consciousness within hours to days and can recover well.
 
 So it does actually seen possible to be knocked out and regain consciousness again in four hours time?
 Loc= loss of consciousness.
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« Reply #575 on: January 11, 2026, 10:16:PM »
Psychotic, Jonathan?

Psychotic doesn't mean you suddenly become highly skilled with shooting a rifle and using it as a weapon to subdue a man much larger than you.

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« Reply #576 on: January 11, 2026, 10:16:PM »
Can anyone point where the Temperature Gauge is?

Mark Newby, Jeremy Bambers Solicitor, March 2021

Of the further two issues added in 2022, one involved the AGA in the kitchen at White House Farm.

If there had to be something hot in the house, the only thing that was hot was the hot AGA.

And we can see it because we've got the temperature gauge on the AGA, which you can see in a photograph.

It must have come from there. But it is amazing that between Yvonne and myself over a 10 year period, we've managed to discover what we discovered.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #577 on: January 11, 2026, 10:23:PM »
Anything is possible Snow when it’s convenient, to me there’s too many hurdles to cross to make the Aga theory work, one it requires police moving Neville, we’ve already seen what complications comes with that.

 Yours is better because you’ve eliminated police involvement and got Neville where he was found and where evidence shows, I like the fact that the broken rifle stock is in the vicinity as well,   but it’s a very big ask for the four hour knockout and I’m sure your quite aware of this if your truthful.  I think it’s knocked (excuse the pun) you out a little with the thought of it extended another hour or possible more
Yes, I was beginning to doubt you could be knocked out for as long as four hours and regain consciousness, but after asking Grok i'm not so sure, HB!

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« Reply #578 on: January 11, 2026, 10:32:PM »
Yes, I was beginning to doubt you could be knocked out for as long as four hours and regain consciousness, but after asking Grok i'm not so sure, HB!
I could tell you was Snow, and that shows your honest, I still think it’s a very big ask though.  The problem and slight relief for you though, they’re going by the Temp Gauge on their Aga, we don’t know the Temp on WHF Aga in the night, so it might not have been four hours on WHF Aga and Thats why it makes the whole exercise very hard to prove,  event time, heat time, cannot be proved.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #579 on: January 11, 2026, 10:46:PM »
How did the police officers get past chairs?

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« Reply #580 on: January 11, 2026, 10:53:PM »
How did the police officers get past chairs?
As far as I’m aware he was behind the door not blocking it Roch.  I did see the Doc Maker made this point. You can’t rely on the photo he shows and the time of entry what they dealt with, and you can’t rely on the 14 inch he says because no measurement was took at the time.

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« Reply #581 on: January 11, 2026, 10:54:PM »
How did the police officers get past chairs?
If you look at the photo he’s nearer to the Aga anyway?

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« Reply #582 on: January 11, 2026, 10:55:PM »
As far as I’m aware he was behind the door not blocking it Roch.  I did see the Doc Maker made this point. You can’t rely on the photo he shows and the time of entry what they dealt with, and you can’t rely on the 14 inch he says because no measurement was took at the time.

Not sure what you mean about photo? He says 4 inches. Not sure how that would be worked out.
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« Reply #583 on: January 11, 2026, 11:13:PM »
I didn’t claim any dates when the photo was taken I said after,, I told you Bird went back on the dates I gave, you had no knowledge whatsoever about Bird going back.

Yes I did because I knew from his COLP interview that he went back in September not August as you were inferring with your AE clean up. The statement is true but the inference is misleading. All Manner of thinks could have happened in the meantime.
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« Reply #584 on: January 11, 2026, 11:26:PM »
Snow still battling away. Sheila knocks Nevill out for 4 hours & then Nevill is able to ring Jeremy!"
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.