Colour of burns

[snow66!]

NInja Sheila

Psychotic, Jonathan?

[Adam]

Seems its a minimum of 4hrs, Adam!
So now we will have to use the term 'four hour Aga burn scenarios', and adjust them to suit!

Let me know if 30 seconds to 2 minutes was enough to aquire the burns.

That is a typical boxers knockout. Generous leeway given that Sheila was Mike Tyson for those few seconds.

[Hardy Boy]

Seems its a minimum of 4hrs, Adam!
So now we will have to use the term 'four hour Aga burn scenarios', and adjust them to suit!

So it would have to be a four hour Knockout now Snow?

[Bubo bubo]

You can actually see the blood stain marks in exactly the place where the Coal scuttle had been, this is after Anne did a quick clean up.    So those marks don’t support a cover-up. They support the simple fact that the scuttle sat there while blood pooled and settled.

Pull the other one. Are you suggesting this is blood staining looks more like food spillage. What we do not know if when the picture was taken. Clearly it is not a crime scene picture but could have been taken weeks or months after the event. Someone could have dropped a cooking utensil. There are other marks of a similar nature in other parts of the rug.

[snow66!]

Let me know if 30 seconds to 2 minutes was enough to aquire the burns.

That is a typical boxers knockout. Generous leeway given that Sheila was Mike Tyson for those few seconds.

I just told you, Adam, 4hrs minimum!
I know it is unusual to be knocked out for four hours, but is it impossible?

[snow66!]

So it would have to be a four hour Knockout now Snow?

Yes, according to the doc-maker article, HB!

[Hardy Boy]

Pull the other one. Are you suggesting this is blood staining looks more like food spillage. What we do not know if when the picture was taken. Clearly it is not a crime scene picture but could have been taken weeks or months after the event. Someone could have dropped a cooking utensil. There are other marks of a similar nature in other parts of the rug.

Nope it’s after the event, it will be one that Bird took on his visits after the Murders.  It’s under the title case  related photos.

[Adam]

Yes, according to the doc-maker article, HB!

3 or 4 hours, Nevill would have 'severe tramatic brain injury' and not be able to function.

I have said this several times.

Please inform the forum if 30 seconds to 2 minutes would be long enough to aquire the burns.

[Bubo bubo]

If Neville’s head had been on the Pillow as suggested by Bubo and June prayed for him, that blood pooling you see would be on the pillow and not around the coal scuttle.

Not if the white object or jeans had been put on top of the cushions and blood continued to drip from his wounds. They later move them to be around the scuttle.

[Hardy Boy]

Pull the other one. Are you suggesting this is blood staining looks more like food spillage. What we do not know if when the picture was taken. Clearly it is not a crime scene picture but could have been taken weeks or months after the event. Someone could have dropped a cooking utensil. There are other marks of a similar nature in other parts of the rug.

Cooking utensil, who was cooking weeks after the event?

[Adam]

If the outside of the door was very hot, then 30 seconds to 2 minutes may be enough.

Appreciate Snow wants to cover himself with a 4 hour lay down on the door. That has been negated today.

[Cambridgecutie]

The only perspectives that ultimately count are those held by the CoA.

Even if it can be evidenced that NB was moved, and to my mind there is not a scintilla of evidence for this, it will fail because it in no way gets to the heart of the case namely the blood flake supposedly found inside the silencer.

CoA would begrudgingly concede 'yes naughty police officers moved Mr Bamber and did not fess up' however this does not explain:

1. why defence did not adjudicate this at trial The cause was ambiguous at the time of the trial
2. how a flake of blood supposedly found inside the silencer matched SC's blood groups. Created by FSS
3. the scratches on the Aga mantle. Created by family and or police post incident
4. the paint on the silencer Ditto
5. why SC's nightdress was free of debris when FSS claim it would have expected to find some on someone who fired a rifle 25/6 times. Dependent on distances and is only an opinion.
6. why SC's handswabs did not support someone handling the cartriges as FSS claim. She could have washed her hands.
7. Julie Mugford's testimony. A pack of lies. Hitman an example

I have no idea what is difficult to understand about this

Bubo bubo's replies are in red above.

1. CCRC/CoA response - Nothing prevented the defence from advancing at trial with or without expert opinion in burns/pathology.

2 - 7 CCRC/CoA response - Prove it.   

[Hardy Boy]

Not if the white object or jeans had been put on top of the cushions and blood continued to drip from his wounds. They later move them to be around the scuttle.

Once again, your theory requires a sequence of invisible actions that leave no trace., you’d see saturation, soak-through, or  transfer,  on the pillows, mat, or surrounding floor. You don’t.  The blood pattern doesn’t support it.  Again Blood fixes the position, Neville was in  and it fixes it at the coal scuttle, and  not the pillows or in front of the Aga, there’s zero evidence of blood pooling in front of the Aga, there’s a mountain of evidence it was at the Coal Scuttle, pictures, stain marks, police statements, Dr Craig’s confirmation Etc.

[Adam]

Bubo bubo's replies are in red above.

1. CCRC/CoA response - Nothing prevented the defence from advancing at trial with or without expert opinion in burns/pathology.

2 - 7 CCRC/CoA response - Prove it.

Do you think Nevill called Jeremy while Sheila was upstairs. Or after he had been shot 4 times?

[Hardy Boy]

Bubo bubo's replies are in red above.

1. CCRC/CoA response - Nothing prevented the defence from advancing at trial with or without expert opinion in burns/pathology.

2 - 7 CCRC/CoA response - Prove it.

Nice Quote  Cutie, UTD losing already 😂😂🙈.