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Offline Bubo bubo

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #465 on: January 10, 2026, 10:14:PM »
Well it's in the same sort of area Snow?

The other thing is the cushion beside the Aga is bloodstained so we have to consider Nevil was maybe injured while lying against the Aga. Also I can't stop thinking about who put the cushion their? I know Bubo has discussed this.   

I have and I said I thought he had or could have been snagged on the handle. Dependent on his wounds at that time he might not have been able to use his arms to free himself. There are at least 4 cushions in a pile if you look closely.

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« Reply #466 on: January 10, 2026, 10:15:PM »
He is lying their to test the pattern a real body might make Jane, being quite thorough don't you think?


He certainly must have been fed up, and aching, from propping himself into the required position for the time it took to get it right.

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« Reply #467 on: January 10, 2026, 10:15:PM »
When you say injured, Rob, do you mean from a gunshot or beating to the face?
Would Sheila have bothered placing a cushion under Nevills head unless he was still alive?

It was June who would have done that.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #468 on: January 10, 2026, 10:31:PM »

He certainly must have been fed up, and aching, from propping himself into the required position for the time it took to get it right.
😂😂😂.if he’d have dropped he’d miss the target,  Good job he wasn’t on overtime
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« Reply #469 on: January 10, 2026, 10:50:PM »
Did anyone read the doc-maker's part 1 and part 2 about the Aga?

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« Reply #470 on: January 10, 2026, 10:58:PM »
Did anyone read the doc-maker's part 1 and part 2 about the Aga?
Yes, of course, Roch, why?

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« Reply #471 on: January 11, 2026, 12:40:AM »
Did anyone read the doc-maker's part 1 and part 2 about the Aga?
Read it all again, Roch! Have you any comments to make about the doc-makers claims? Or are you unsure whether the police moved Nevill or not?
Do you buy the gallows humour or risk of Nevill catching fire? Or do you think it was possible for Nevill to fall into that 'unnatural' position, as they put it?
You haven't said much about the Aga evidence for a while,Roch!

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« Reply #472 on: January 11, 2026, 05:59:AM »
It was June who would have done that.
If Neville’s head was on the pillows at all, it alters all the positioning of his body alignment with the Aga, and puts his back further away from the contact points,  also the blood pooling is entirely consistent with Nevill being found where he was, with his head in the coal scuttle and not around the Aga floor.   Don’t mistake the red Flora pattern in the Pillow as blood, because it’s consistent with other matching pillows not in the Crime Scene.  The rug in the after pictures shows no sign of blood pooling either.


Then we move onto the Blood Pooling….. this would happen where the body is during and shortly after death, or when he was killed,  circulation would have ceased at this point, blood would still be mobile for a short period even after death, gravity (with his head in the coal scuttle bent over) is consistent with mobile pooling around the coal scuttle and liver mortis, If Nevill had been shot, or left elsewhere by the Aga for hours, and then moved four hours later, the pooling would reflect the earlier position  and  not neatly collect around the coal scuttle.

 You keep adding problems that don’t help, the blood tells you exactly where Neville was  at the time of death, and not placed there four hours later, the blood is not cooperating with your’s or Boyce’s Theory at all Bubo.  If we look at the rug, there’s no blood at all consistent with blood pooling, imagine the head on those pillows and then work out where his back contact points would then align with the Aga, the head itself is aligned with the contact points and not his back,  This pillows actually work against your Aga theory.

Do you think June Prayed over Neville while she placed the cushions under his head, or did she do it to hide the blood on the rug?
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« Reply #473 on: January 11, 2026, 06:36:AM »
Did anyone read the doc-maker's part 1 and part 2 about the Aga?
No not seen it Roch, and to be honest the Video was enough………does he answer these questions in it Roch, does he explain Where is the blood pooling consistent with Nevill being moved hours after death?  In his video there is no clear floor contact showing how the body is settle alongside the Aga, the body seems to be held in this position, Posed in other words and propped up by him resting on his arm?
Why does he use a three inch height difference between the Aga used and the WHF one, it seems that the crime scene Aga at WHF is irrelevant when he’s relying on body contact and height?
Why does the stooge conveniently hold himself up and extend his neck, rather than collapsing naturally as a dead person would?  Why does the edit cut away to not to show the stooge’s support, or balance?

He’s doing exactly the same as the Millbank tape recording, editing to suit the conclusion, selective recording and selective editing.
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« Reply #474 on: January 11, 2026, 06:40:AM »

You haven't said much about the Aga evidence for a while,Roch!
Its not hard to work out why?  I think Roch is on board with yours and Rob’s theory, the three hour  Knockout?
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« Reply #475 on: January 11, 2026, 10:04:AM »
It would have to be a hell of a punch to knock out Nevill. For 3 hours.

Would have to be one punch & the first punch. If she started swinging and missing, a fully fit Nevill would restrain her.

Sheila was not so successful later & had to inflict 40+ injuries to Nevill in order to negate him.
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« Reply #476 on: January 11, 2026, 10:13:AM »
AI -

'While real-life knockouts from a physical blow to the head typically last for only a few minutes or less, a person can remain unconscious for three hours or longer due to a severe traumatic brain injury (TBI). An unconsciousness period of this length is a serious medical emergency and not a temporary, non-damaging incapacitation as often depicted in movies.'

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Boxers are usually semi knocked out & the ref stops the fight. Or it is a clean knock out. The boxer is counted out & regains conciousness in the ring. Either way this will be after recieving multiple punches from professional boxers.
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« Reply #477 on: January 11, 2026, 10:21:AM »
AI -

No, a person cannot function normally or independently immediately after a severe traumatic brain injury (TBI) from a blow to the head; severe injuries often cause immediate unconsciousness, confusion, or significant impairment in thinking, moving, and communicating.

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Nevill would not be able to phone Jeremy after his 3 hour knock out. He would not be able to function as sufferring from severe tramatic brain injury.
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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #478 on: January 11, 2026, 12:02:PM »
Read it all again, Roch! Have you any comments to make about the doc-makers claims? Or are you unsure whether the police moved Nevill or not?
Do you buy the gallows humour or risk of Nevill catching fire? Or do you think it was possible for Nevill to fall into that 'unnatural' position, as they put it?
You haven't said much about the Aga evidence for a while,Roch!

I will post up the links again Snow. I prefer articles to be devoid of sarcasm unless it is very subtle. However, the doc-maker's audience is probably diverse and some will probably enjoy the quips. I have re-read the article today and found it very interesting.

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Re: Colour of burns
« Reply #479 on: January 11, 2026, 12:08:PM »
Its not hard to work out why?  I think Roch is on board with yours and Rob’s theory, the three hour  Knockout?

Based on the 'three hour knockout' (::)) at what stage is it being claimed NB sustained his non gunshot wounds?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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