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Re: New Yorker podcast
« Reply #120 on: December 31, 2025, 12:30:PM »

It appears that several bushes are being beat around, but the bottom line is that despite, eventually!, telling Chelmsford police that his father sounded "terrified", he wasted, potentially, precious minutes, phoning local stations -which probably only had bicycles or mopeds- rather than calling 999.

Bamber said he underestimated the seriousness of the situation - then explained his slow driving by saying that he was scared to get there first

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« Reply #121 on: December 31, 2025, 12:34:PM »
Bamber said he underestimated the seriousness of the situation - then explained his slow driving by saying that he was scared to get there first


Having previously told Chelmsford police hiss father sounded "terrified"

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« Reply #122 on: December 31, 2025, 01:34:PM »
Even if you are correct on this point, I don't think that would be allowed, because it is not evidence.

Of course Taff had his reasons for believing it was murder suicide and it was not just him most of the officers present saw nothing wrong with the crime scene, if he took the sand explaining his reasons the case collapses.

We cannot see all the original case notes unfortunately.       

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« Reply #123 on: December 31, 2025, 01:44:PM »
Of course Taff had his reasons for believing it was murder suicide and it was not just him most of the officers present saw nothing wrong with the crime scene, if he took the sand explaining his reasons the case collapses.

We cannot see all the original case notes unfortunately.     

Did the other officers who "saw nothing wrong with the crime scene" give evidence?

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« Reply #124 on: December 31, 2025, 02:12:PM »
Did the other officers who "saw nothing wrong with the crime scene" give evidence?

I am not sure which officers did give evidence? I know Bews and West did. 

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« Reply #125 on: December 31, 2025, 02:13:PM »
Did the other officers who "saw nothing wrong with the crime scene" give evidence?


I'm inclined to believe that (most) people see what they're told/led to believe they'll see. i.e. JB painted a very clear picture of Sheila and her mental instability, which included a previous suicide attempt which has never been verified, so obviously, when police went in and saw her with a gun draped across her, their first thought would have been suicide. It would have taken a very brave person to stand out against the general consensus and claim it was something other.

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« Reply #126 on: December 31, 2025, 02:21:PM »

I'm inclined to believe that (most) people see what they're told/led to believe they'll see. i.e. JB painted a very clear picture of Sheila and her mental instability, which included a previous suicide attempt which has never been verified, so obviously, when police went in and saw her with a gun draped across her, their first thought would have been suicide. It would have taken a very brave person to stand out against the general consensus and claim it was something other.

This is what Cook said:

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« Reply #127 on: December 31, 2025, 02:29:PM »

I'm inclined to believe that (most) people see what they're told/led to believe they'll see. i.e. JB painted a very clear picture of Sheila and her mental instability, which included a previous suicide attempt which has never been verified, so obviously, when police went in and saw her with a gun draped across her, their first thought would have been suicide. It would have taken a very brave person to stand out against the general consensus and claim it was something other.
She'd told Helen Grimster she had thought of suicide, but there was no independent verification she had attempted it. Even June, had she known, would have immediately stepped in and brought her back to White House Farm.

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« Reply #128 on: December 31, 2025, 03:15:PM »

I'm inclined to believe that (most) people see what they're told/led to believe they'll see. i.e. JB painted a very clear picture of Sheila and her mental instability, which included a previous suicide attempt which has never been verified, so obviously, when police went in and saw her with a gun draped across her, their first thought would have been suicide. It would have taken a very brave person to stand out against the general consensus and claim it was something other.

He called her a nutter, do lally, looney, is having treatment, should be locked up, didn't like him, knew how to use all the weapons at WHF, he didn't like her.

That was after he told them about Nevill's call.

Then he asked Bews & Miller to go inside!
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #129 on: January 02, 2026, 07:08:PM »

A superiority complex there, and a wonderful put-down! Little man, know your place!

Not really, Nevill was a ww2 fighter pilot hero, Gentry Farmer, magistrate and shrewd businessman.  Even if Jeremy was lying I can imagine Nevill having the mindset.

They were private people, a local employer, pillar of the community, archers style family.
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« Reply #130 on: January 02, 2026, 07:39:PM »
Not really, Nevill was a ww2 fighter pilot hero, Gentry Farmer, magistrate and shrewd businessman.  Even if Jeremy was lying I can imagine Nevill having the mindset.

They were private people, a local employer, pillar of the community, archers style family.


You may think that, but the man I've been told about was gregarious, fun, even flirtatious. Of course, his 'professional' persona would have been rather different.

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Re: New Yorker podcast
« Reply #131 on: January 03, 2026, 04:46:PM »
Has the podcast mentioned any theories about the contamination of the silencer?

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Re: New Yorker podcast
« Reply #132 on: January 03, 2026, 04:59:PM »
Of course Taff had his reasons for believing it was murder suicide and it was not just him most of the officers present saw nothing wrong with the crime scene, if he took the sand explaining his reasons the case collapses.

We cannot see all the original case notes unfortunately.     

What could he have said which would have sank the prosecution case?

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« Reply #133 on: January 03, 2026, 05:21:PM »
Has the podcast mentioned any theories about the contamination of the silencer?

What podcast?

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Re: New Yorker podcast
« Reply #134 on: January 03, 2026, 09:08:PM »