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[BarefootDanC]

My assessment of Taff is he gets a lot of stick. I would have come to a similar point of view. It was a different way of life back in the 80s,

Well spoken posh guy, sister with documented mental health problems. Property locked up.

Only the two shots would have got me suspicious,  but the pathologist did say it could happen.

All these interviews etc years on with Bews, etc saying stuff like " We were so suspicious of him from the outset" Is just bollocks tainted by the wisdom of the event.

Wouldn't you have been suspicious that neither Nevill nor Jeremy called 999 !?

[David1819]

I have heard that suggested by Bamber supporters. Also, some Bamber supporters claim that he was waiting to the trial to blow the whistle, as Essex Police prevented him from blowing the whistle prior to the trial, and had he not been killed he could have testified that he had proof of Bamber's innocence.

He never had proof that JB was innocent. But he always believed he was, and would have expressed that at trial had he not died.

[BarefootDanC]

He never had proof that JB was innocent. But he always believed he was, and would have expressed that at trial had he not died.

Even if you are correct on this point, I don't think that would be allowed, because it is not evidence.

[ILB]

Wouldn't you have been suspicious that neither Nevill nor Jeremy called 999 !?

No.

Why would I?

I wouldn't be conducting a criminal investigation asap into a concerned relative I had a concerned young man and a woman with mental health difficulties in a farmhouse with numerous firearms.

[BarefootDanC]

No.

Why would I?

I wouldn't be conducting a criminal investigation asap into a concerned relative I had a concerned young man and a woman with mental health difficulties in a farmhouse with numerous firearms.

Because everyone knows "in an emergency, call 999"! It said it in bold in the phone book which Jeremy looked through. Despite this, he ignored the bold and called the local police!

[Steve_uk]

Because everyone knows "in an emergency, call 999"! It said it in bold in the phone book which Jeremy looked through. Despite this, he ignored the bold and called the local police!

..and he wasn't flicking through the Yellow Pages at all during that time. He was removing his murderwear, replete with flecks of blood, which he hung up in the wardrobe, changing into his new attire of blue blouson jacket, two crew-neck jumpers over a shirt, jeans and trainers. No apparent concern for the victims of his slaughter, quite composed from his nocturnal endeavours, until realizing he had to make an effort in that regard.

The effort didn't last long though, as upon Julie's arrival he couldn't stifle the chuckle which emerged from his person, now fully in control, as he drove DS Jones and DI Mick Clarke back to Bourtree Cottage.

[ILB]

Because everyone knows "in an emergency, call 999"! It said it in bold in the phone book which Jeremy looked through. Despite this, he ignored the bold and called the local police!

He tried phoning witham, then phoned Chelmsford.

[Steve_uk]

He tried phoning witham, then phoned Chelmsford.

The first claim is disputed by Essex Police.

[Adam]

So he got no reply from Witham and still didn't dial 999.

[ILB]

So he got no reply from Witham and still didn't dial 999.

He said " I don't know how your system works "

Wonder how many times in actual fact he had phoned 999 prior to 1985.

[Jane]

So he got no reply from Witham and still didn't dial 999.

It appears that several bushes are being beat around, but the bottom line is that despite, eventually!, telling Chelmsford police that his father sounded "terrified", he wasted, potentially, precious minutes, phoning local stations -which probably only had bicycles or mopeds- rather than calling 999.

[ILB]

So he got no reply from Witham and still didn't dial 999.

He has changed his stance a little on the calls since 1985.

Back in 85 it was " He sounded really frightened

2025 he is like " Nevill would say " For fuck sake why have you phoned the coppers for"

[ILB]

Didn't he say to bews though " You have to understand he doesn't like to get organisations involved, the family name etc"

[Jane]

He said " I don't know how your system works "

Wonder how many times in actual fact he had phoned 999 prior to 1985.

In an emergency situation, one has no need to "know how the system works". In this particular case, the "system" is tried, trusted, and relied upon.

[Jane]

Didn't he say to bews though " You have to understand he doesn't like to get organisations involved, the family name etc"

A superiority complex there, and a wonderful put-down! Little man, know your place!