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[Jonathan]

Just listened to episode 5.

Millbank sounds fit & well. He was still working for EP so a surprise he agreed to speak to Heidi. Also a surprise he died suddenly at 67. Obviously Heidi wouldn't sneek in an actor to go with the usual RB's & BW's.

Millbank says he can't remember half a dozen times. Then can't remember his 2002 statement that says he took over the monitoring of an open line from Jean Rowe.

Heidi said he emailed her saying that he could have misrembered and he might have made the statement

[BarefootDanC]

Heidi said he emailed her saying that he could have misrembered and he might have made the statement

Thanks Jonathan. Do you know where he said this?

[Jonathan]

Thanks Jonathan. Do you know where he said this?

it's about 30min in to episode 5. She sends him the 2002 statement, he responds and lists 8 reasons why it wasn't made by him, but conceded that he "could have misremembered things" and "the statement could be right". He then claims all incoming 999 calls were recorded. Heidi says Milbank then "clammed-up" and didn't want to talk about the case.

Milbank on the witness stand would have been something worth seeing.

[Adam]

Episode 5 is correct in that the twins are likely to sleep through the whole massacre due to the quiet rifle.

Ditto Sheila who was also very drowsy.

[BarefootDanC]

it's about 30min in to episode 5. She sends him the 2002 statement, he responds and lists 8 reasons why it wasn't made by him, but conceded that he "could have misremembered things" and "the statement could be right". He then claims all incoming 999 calls were recorded. Heidi says Milbank then "clammed-up" and didn't want to talk about the case.

Milbank on the witness stand would have been something worth seeing.

Thanks Jonathan.

A fact conveniently which will be conveniently omitted by the Campaign Team podcasts.

[Steve_uk]

it's about 30min in to episode 5. She sends him the 2002 statement, he responds and lists 8 reasons why it wasn't made by him, but conceded that he "could have misremembered things" and "the statement could be right". He then claims all incoming 999 calls were recorded. Heidi says Milbank then "clammed-up" and didn't want to talk about the case.

Milbank on the witness stand would have been something worth seeing.

If you're a conspiracy theorist you may argue they bumped off DCI Jones as well.

[ILB]

If you're a conspiracy theorist you may argue they bumped off DCI Jones as well.

Funnily enough in Lomaxs book in conversations with Taffs son they explore that.

[Jonathan]

Funnily enough in Lomaxs book in conversations with Taffs son they explore that.

They could not be sure he wouldn't survive a ladder fall.

[Steve_uk]

They could not be sure he wouldn't survive a ladder fall.

It depends from what height he fell.

[Jonathan]

It depends from what height he fell.

It would take a lot to go right. Sabotaging the ladder at a certain height, being sure he would climb that high, erc

[Steve_uk]

It would take a lot to go right. Sabotaging the ladder at a certain height, being sure he would climb that high, erc

I'm guessing there were no witnesses to the occurrence..

[David1819]

Funnily enough in Lomaxs book in conversations with Taffs son they explore that.

Is this in the latest version of his book?

[ILB]

Is this in the latest version of his book?

Yeah.

Guy simply fell off a ladder back in 86. Think Jeremy was on remand awaiting trial.

I don't recall Jeremy himself alledging any suspicion about it.  Seems he just had an accident at home.

[ILB]

My assessment of Taff is he gets a lot of stick. I would have come to a similar point of view. It was a different way of life back in the 80s,

Well spoken posh guy, sister with documented mental health problems. Property locked up.

Only the two shots would have got me suspicious,  but the pathologist did say it could happen.

All these interviews etc years on with Bews, etc saying stuff like " We were so suspicious of him from the outset" Is just bollocks tainted by the wisdom of the event.

[BarefootDanC]

If you're a conspiracy theorist you may argue they bumped off DCI Jones as well.

I have heard that suggested by Bamber supporters. Also, some Bamber supporters claim that he was waiting to the trial to blow the whistle, as Essex Police prevented him from blowing the whistle prior to the trial, and had he not been killed he could have testified that he had proof of Bamber's innocence.