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OK, so what have we got regarding the Milbank call?
Milbank says he received a call from inside the farm at 6.09, buy didn't say why he knew it was from WHF?
I mean, did he see the number on a monitor or something, and if so, how did he know it was from WHF, did an address come up too?
And no mention was made of the fact that 'operator' appears in the margin of the log regarding the 6.09 call.
So was there a call from 'inside' WHF at 6.09 or was it the operator phoning the police station to hand over the open line?
I am none the wiser!
Was it Jean Rowe who supposedly handed over the open line at 6.09? Is she still alive? Maybe Heidi should track 'her' down to clarrify things?
I didn't get an answer from the CT either about the change in the line status at 5.47 that Bubo was talking about!
Anyway,there is no doubt that the CCRC will need the activity at 6.09 made crystal clear before they can take any action, no half stories will be good enough!

[Adam]

OK, so what have we got regarding the Milbank call?
Milbank says he received a call from inside the farm at 6.09, buy didn't say why he knew it was from WHF?
I mean, did he see the number on a monitor or something, and if so, how did he know it was from WHF, did an address come up too?
And no mention was made of the fact that 'operator' appears in the margin of the log regarding the 6.09 call.
So was there a call from 'inside' WHF at 6.09 or was it the operator phoning the police station to hand over the open line?
I am none the wiser!
Was it Jean Rowe who supposedly handed over the open line at 6.09? Is she still alive? Maybe Heidi should track 'her' down to clarrify things?
I didn't get an answer from the CT either about the change in the line status at 5.47 that Bubo was talking about!
Anyway,there is no doubt that the CCRC will need the activity at 6.09 made crystal clear before they can take any action, no half stories will be good enough!

Burrell's 1985 WS confirms Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at WHF from 6.09am.

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Burrell's 1985 WS confirms Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at WHF from 6.09am.

But Milbank seems to be saying that he actually answered a call at 6.09, Adam? Not, that he simply took over a phone from someone else who had already been listening to the open line from WHF?
He answered the phone and continued to monitor it until the police entered at 7.34!
And if the open line had already been handed over  before 6.09, just what was the operator calling the police station for at that time?
I mean, once the opertator handed the open line over to the police, that should have been that, no other interaction between the operator and the police should have been neccessary.
So just when did the operator ring up the police station and hand over the open line?

[Adam]

But Milbank seems to be saying that he actually answered a call at 6.09, Adam? Not, that he simply took over a phone from someone else who had already been listening to the open line from WHF?
He answered the phone and continued to monitor it until the police entered at 7.34!

Obviously he didn't answer a 999 call from inside WHF where the caller says nothing. He took over the monitoring of the open line at 6.09am. As said in 1985.

Appreciate supporters will promote it. They are still promoting the 2010 claim that Nevill called a police station over 20 miles away. Because West & Bonnet's phone logs differ.

The CCRC has dismissed both.

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Obviously he didn't answer a 999 call from inside WHF where the caller says nothing. He took over the monitoring of the open line at 6.09am. As said in 1985.

Appreciate supporters will promote it. They are still promoting the 2010 claim that Nevill called a police station over 20 miles away. Because West & Bonnet's phone logs differ.

The CCRC has dismissed both.

At what time did the operator ring up the police station and hand over the open line, Adam?
If it was before 6.09, then the 6..09 call 'must' have came from inside WHF, yes?

[Adam]

At what time did the operator ring up the police station and hand over the open line, Adam?
If it was before 6.09, then the 6..09 call 'must' have came from inside WHF, yes?

Burrel's WS is on this forum. Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at 6.09am. Nothing happened before.

[Rob_]

Burrel's WS is on this forum. Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at 6.09am. Nothing happened before.

Except that earlier than 6.09am the operator reported the line engaged.

Which can only happen if the phone was returned to the cradle (as it was off the hook which sets a alarm on at the exchange), picked up and a call made!

[Adam]

Except that earlier than 6.09am the operator reported the line engaged.

Which can only happen if the phone was returned to the cradle (as it was off the hook which sets a alarm on at the exchange), picked up and a call made!

All getting very complex and optimistic.

One minute Sheila is shooting her sleeping parents & children 23 times & inflicting 40+ injuries to Nevill. As she wanted to commit murder/suicide.

The next she is still alive hours later. Ignoring the police outside & phoning 999 but not saying anything.

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Except that earlier than 6.09am the operator reported the line engaged.

Which can only happen if the phone was returned to the cradle (as it was off the hook which sets a alarm on at the exchange), picked up and a call made!

Yes, thats what Bubo said, Rob, why haven't the CT made a big deal of this?

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Burrel's WS is on this forum. Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at 6.09am. Nothing happened before.

I'll take a look then ,Adam, and at Jean Rowes! Try and make some sense of things!

[Rob_]

Yes, thats what Bubo said, Rob, why haven't the CT made a big deal of this?

I don't know Snow? It took quite a lot of searching to find that a phone off the hook set an alarm on at the exchange in those days.

To me it is something that needs explaining, if the line did change status JB is innocent.

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Burrell's 1985 WS confirms Milbank took over the monitoring of the open line at WHF from 6.09am.

Yes, according to Burrell,the open line was handed over at 6.09 from the operator and only then did Milbank monitor it.
So, it seems someone is mistaken?
Why didn't Heidi Blake explain the Burrell statement?
What about Jean Rowe, where is her statement, Adam? What did she say?

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I don't know Snow? It took quite a lot of searching to find that a phone off the hook set an alarm on at the exchange in those days.

To me it is something that needs explaining, if the line did change status JB is innocent.

Thanks Rob! So, is the log showing this change on the forum here somewhere? I think Bubo has already posted it before.

[Rob_]

Thanks Rob! So, is the log showing this change on the forum here somewhere? I think Bubo has already posted it before.

Yes the log is on the forum Snow, if you read West's and or Bonnett's you will find it.