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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2025, 09:07:PM »
An officer 40 years later saying he thought he heard noises inside WHF when monitoring the open line will not be sufficient. As all the forensic and circumstantial evidence confirms guilt.

Besides which Crispy was inside WHF. If he can shoot Sheila as Bamber suggested, he can also make noises.
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2025, 09:48:PM »
An officer 40 years later saying he thought he heard noises inside WHF when monitoring the open line will not be sufficient. As all the forensic and circumstantial evidence confirms guilt.

Besides which Crispy was inside WHF. If he can shoot Sheila as Bamber suggested, he can also make noises.
Well we haven't heard the Milbank interview yet, Adam. so we cant just say too much at the moment, can we?

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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2025, 03:50:PM »
Well we haven't heard the Milbank interview yet, Adam. so we cant just say too much at the moment, can we?

There was also the strange comment Milbank made years ago to a reporter Snow about the 999 call.

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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2025, 05:19:PM »
There was also the strange comment Milbank made years ago to a reporter Snow about the 999 call.
What was that again, Rob? I cant remember!

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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2025, 10:12:PM »
What was that again, Rob? I cant remember!

I will try and locate it Snow I may be mistaken but there was a post by Roch a while ago if I remember correctly?

I thought Millbank made a strange comment after being approached by a reporter, but could have been the Met?

 

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2025, 10:17:PM »
He sounds pretty much the same as when I saw him 30 odd years ago.

Although me personally I believe the engagement June ring thing was a bit of a put on act ( all the theatric tears etc) I may be wrong.

But then again as I've not spent 40 years as a CAT A it's difficult to cast judgement.

When Heidi Blake said " Read the room Jeremy" I think she had a memory lapse and forgot she was talking to one or the UK longest serving prisoners.
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2025, 11:22:PM »
I will try and locate it Snow I may be mistaken but there was a post by Roch a while ago if I remember correctly?

I thought Millbank made a strange comment after being approached by a reporter, but could have been the Met?
Well I probably saw it too, Rob, but as time goes by you do start to forget things.

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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2025, 11:24:PM »
He sounds pretty much the same as when I saw him 30 odd years ago.

Although me personally I believe the engagement June ring thing was a bit of a put on act ( all the theatric tears etc) I may be wrong.

But then again as I've not spent 40 years as a CAT A it's difficult to cast judgement.

When Heidi Blake said " Read the room Jeremy" I think she had a memory lapse and forgot she was talking to one or the UK longest serving prisoners.
Haven't had time to listen to episode 3 yet, its always good to hear the man himself talking, ILB,

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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2025, 09:12:AM »
This was Simon Kelly's take on it:

Having now listened to all of the New Yorker podcast, here’s my thoughts on it. Let’s look at what was said first.

- Barbara Wilson confirmed Nevill and June were discussing foster care for the twins. Ainsley wrote in his report to the DPP, that the “only suggestion of foster care” had come from Jeremy Bamber. He also said Jeremy was spreading “misinformation” about this subject. It was described as a “cynical fabrication”. Wilson stated that Jeremy was 100% correct

- Neil Davidson described the handling of crime scene as a “shambles.” That nothing was preserved at all. He confirmed DI Ron Cook had handled the Bible and flicked through the pages before the photos had been taken. He also suggested Cook had moved the gun. He described Cook as a “nightmare.” He also stated that Cook didn’t hold himself to high standards. He also seemed surprised that Cook hadn’t signed the property log for the sound moderator for the 17 days he had it in his possession. Saying this compromised the integrity of the exhibit as no records of it’s whereabouts were made.

- PC Milbank stated that he took a 999 call through the 999 call system at 06.09
He said it was procedure to monitor the line if nobody speaks. He referred to this as if it was an “abandoned call.”
He said a police officer had picked up the phone and told him they were in the house, and that’s when he cut off the call
Gave Heidi Blake 8 reasons why the statement made in his name in 2002 wasn’t genuine
2 statements exist given after the NY article - Both taken by Essex Police. One states Milbank had never spoken to the NY - This is clearly false as Heidi Blake clearly states who she is as she opens the interview
There is some doubt about one of the statements being genuine as Milbank is spelt wrong, and 1 of the ls is crossed out

David Boutflour stated the police took away his and his fathers sound moderaters “within days” of the original blood test on the sound moderator
He said they kept them for “months and months”
He described how he thought he was never going to get them back
He stated he had 2 sound moderators - Its unclear if the police took 2 from him or 1
He clearly stated that his “prints” would have been all over the sound moderator
He admitted trying to unscrew the end nut with significant force
Said his DNA could be in the sound moderator
He said it took him “10 minutes” to realise what he had found

There’s more to cover but I will keep it at that for now. All in all, a brilliant podcast series. HB captures great audio including from Jeremy. He gets very emotional at points during the interviews and that’s a side many won’t have heard.

From an evidence POV - It highlights the flaws in the case, from the fact nothing was preserved to the tampering of the crime scene.
It raises serious questions about why Milbank was scrubbed from the case and why his statement in 2002 was forged
It shows how EP made false statements regarding Jeremy’s story to the DPP - Especially about the foster care issue
David Boutflour’s admissions show EP did have at least 3 sound moderator’s in their possession - Something they have always denied. They also had them in their possession for months and months

This shows how flawed the whole investigation was.

I don’t think Heidi is quite done with this one yet! J4J

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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2025, 09:29:AM »
This was Simon Kelly's take on it:

Having now listened to all of the New Yorker podcast, here’s my thoughts on it. Let’s look at what was said first.

- Barbara Wilson confirmed Nevill and June were discussing foster care for the twins. Ainsley wrote in his report to the DPP, that the “only suggestion of foster care” had come from Jeremy Bamber. He also said Jeremy was spreading “misinformation” about this subject. It was described as a “cynical fabrication”. Wilson stated that Jeremy was 100% correct

- Neil Davidson described the handling of crime scene as a “shambles.” That nothing was preserved at all. He confirmed DI Ron Cook had handled the Bible and flicked through the pages before the photos had been taken. He also suggested Cook had moved the gun. He described Cook as a “nightmare.” He also stated that Cook didn’t hold himself to high standards. He also seemed surprised that Cook hadn’t signed the property log for the sound moderator for the 17 days he had it in his possession. Saying this compromised the integrity of the exhibit as no records of it’s whereabouts were made.

- PC Milbank stated that he took a 999 call through the 999 call system at 06.09
He said it was procedure to monitor the line if nobody speaks. He referred to this as if it was an “abandoned call.”
He said a police officer had picked up the phone and told him they were in the house, and that’s when he cut off the call
Gave Heidi Blake 8 reasons why the statement made in his name in 2002 wasn’t genuine
2 statements exist given after the NY article - Both taken by Essex Police. One states Milbank had never spoken to the NY - This is clearly false as Heidi Blake clearly states who she is as she opens the interview
There is some doubt about one of the statements being genuine as Milbank is spelt wrong, and 1 of the ls is crossed out

David Boutflour stated the police took away his and his fathers sound moderaters “within days” of the original blood test on the sound moderator
He said they kept them for “months and months”
He described how he thought he was never going to get them back
He stated he had 2 sound moderators - Its unclear if the police took 2 from him or 1
He clearly stated that his “prints” would have been all over the sound moderator
He admitted trying to unscrew the end nut with significant force
Said his DNA could be in the sound moderator
He said it took him “10 minutes” to realise what he had found

There’s more to cover but I will keep it at that for now. All in all, a brilliant podcast series. HB captures great audio including from Jeremy. He gets very emotional at points during the interviews and that’s a side many won’t have heard.

From an evidence POV - It highlights the flaws in the case, from the fact nothing was preserved to the tampering of the crime scene.
It raises serious questions about why Milbank was scrubbed from the case and why his statement in 2002 was forged
It shows how EP made false statements regarding Jeremy’s story to the DPP - Especially about the foster care issue
David Boutflour’s admissions show EP did have at least 3 sound moderator’s in their possession - Something they have always denied. They also had them in their possession for months and months

This shows how flawed the whole investigation was.

I don’t think Heidi is quite done with this one yet! J4J


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Re: New Yorker podcast
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2025, 08:06:PM »
He sounds pretty much the same as when I saw him 30 odd years ago.

Although me personally I believe the engagement June ring thing was a bit of a put on act ( all the theatric tears etc) I may be wrong.

But then again as I've not spent 40 years as a CAT A it's difficult to cast judgement.

When Heidi Blake said " Read the room Jeremy" I think she had a memory lapse and forgot she was talking to one or the UK longest serving prisoners.
Of course it was: a complete fabrication.

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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2025, 08:09:PM »
Main points of episode 2 -

DB spoke. As usual.

AE & PE did not speak. As usual.

DB said Jeremy & June had a poor relationship.

Jeremy liked to go to strip clubs.

RB believed Sheila slept through the massacre and was woken by Jeremy.

DB & AE are not on good terms.

RB believed Jeremy may have worn a wet suit. As it would be easy to wash blood off.

DB repeated that Jeremy had asked Nevill to leave the cash in the caravan office safe. A few hours before he broke in.
I wondered if that was more to do with the relationship between Ann and sister-in-law Karen than sister and brother, who would surely have benefitted financially from Jeremy Bamber's conviction. Maybe David feels cheated out of the Osea Road caravan park, which has proved to be a gold mine.

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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2025, 10:32:PM »
Of course it was: a complete fabrication.

More than likely artificial in fairness.

But I didn't grow up with him so I wouldn't know for certain.
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2025, 10:59:PM »
More than likely artificial in fairness.

But I didn't grow up with him so I wouldn't know for certain.
It's always difficult with Jeremy to discern truth from fiction, especially with inexperienced interlocutors, cleverly as he interweaves the two.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2025, 11:02:PM »
It's always difficult with Jeremy to discern truth from fiction, especially with inexperienced interlocutors, cleverly as he interweaves the two.

He's spent 40 years pushing a door. His grandiose statements of " Imminent freedom " Aren't as bizarre when you look at his circumstances.
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