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Offline Steve_uk

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2025, 09:28:PM »
A reward that comes with about 60,000 dead people, virtually the entire strip flattened, scholasticide, thousands of maimed children and adults, literally without arms; legs; hands; feet; eyes etc.

Where there no atrocities committed before October 7th?
I agree with the former Attorney General, The Rt Hon Michael Ellis KC, that the reports are uncorroborated, from the mouthpiece of Hamas, which killed 1139 people, including men, women and babies, and took 200 hostages. In proportion to the 10 million Israeli citizens it equates to around 6800 Brits. Do you expect the IDF to stand idly by faced with that and other attacks occurring daily? https://news.sky.com/story/the-challenges-facing-israel-as-it-battles-conflict-on-seven-fronts-13229772
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2025, 10:40:PM »
Yes I think Israel's job was done by the morning of 8th October 2023. Once it had killed all of the remaining Hamas fights on its side of the wall.  All hostages could have been negotiated for a return in about one week.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2025, 10:51:PM »
I agree with the former Attorney General, The Rt Hon Michael Ellis KC, that the reports are uncorroborated, from the mouthpiece of Hamas, which killed 1139 people, including men, women and babies, and took 200 hostages. In proportion to the 10 million Israeli citizens it equates to around 6800 Brits. Do you expect the IDF to stand idly by faced with that and other attacks occurring daily? https://news.sky.com/story/the-challenges-facing-israel-as-it-battles-conflict-on-seven-fronts-13229772
    You haven’t read any of it if you believe the documented crimes laid out are uncorroborated

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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2025, 04:34:AM »
    You haven’t read any of it if you believe the documented crimes laid out are uncorroborated

I read it the first time you posted it. The report is uncorroborated. Are you saying that an 83-year-old woman, a man aged 74 and another man in his late 60s personally witnessed all these alleged atrocities?
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2025, 12:50:AM »
I read it the first time you posted it. The report is uncorroborated. Are you saying that an 83-year-old woman, a man aged 74 and another man in his late 60s personally witnessed all these alleged atrocities?
     So the report of the IDF massacring Red Crescent staff etc told above and corroborated by eye witnesses and mobile footage, as well as the forensic evidence of recovering the crushed, bulldozed vehicles and bodies which had been buried by the IDF Golani Unit is according to you, uncorroborated? There are more which I will highlight throughout the thread. You haven't read the report.
      Are the clear and unequivocal statements of intent to commit genocide by many Israeli officials, including President, PM and Defence Minister also uncorroborated? Is the filmed rape of Palestinian prisoners also uncorroborated? It is probably the most corroborated genocide in history complete with statements of intent. This isn't really arguable. In a few months you will be claiming to have been unaware of the atrocities as the true horror is revealed.

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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2025, 04:55:PM »
"All you need to know about the so-called UN report that accused Israel of genocide is that it was written by three ‘independent’ commissioners. The first is Miloon Kothari, a man condemned in 2022 for his blatant antisemitism by the UN Secretary General and every major Western Democratic Country. Even the head of UNHRC called him an antisemite which is akin to being labeled a Jew hater by Joseph Goebbels.

The second of the three ‘independent’ members is Chris Sidoti, a retired left wing Australian lawyer on the council of the Australian Centre for International Justice (ACIJ). They describe Israel as a “settler-colonial apartheid regime” and support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement. Like Kothari, he was condemned for his blatant antisemitism in 2023.

The third member of the ‘independent’ UNHRC commission that accused Israel of genocide is its Chair, Navi Pillay. A South African ANC activist she has in the past accused Israel of ‘Palestinian organ stealing’, ‘genocide’, ‘targeting children’ and, of course, being an “apartheid regime”.

Her commission, has over the years been labelled a "kangaroo court" by the U.S., UK, Germany, Australia, Italy, and others for its "open-ended mandate" and "disproportionate focus on Israel" amid other global humanitarian crises. Judge for yourself whether she’s independent. Her most recent statements include the following;

“On 7th October 2023 Israel launched its military offensive into Gaza”

“Israel’s military offensive in Gaza amounts to collective punishment, a war crime."

"The occupation is not temporary; it is a permanent regime of domination."

All three resigned in July 2025 in a move designed to avoid the US sanctioning them on account of the transparent weaponisation of the commission against Israel. Those resignations take effect in October which explains the timing of their self described ‘independent report’.'

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2025, 09:02:PM »
     So the report of the IDF massacring Red Crescent staff etc told above and corroborated by eye witnesses and mobile footage, as well as the forensic evidence of recovering the crushed, bulldozed vehicles and bodies which had been buried by the IDF Golani Unit is according to you, uncorroborated? There are more which I will highlight throughout the thread. You haven't read the report.
      Are the clear and unequivocal statements of intent to commit genocide by many Israeli officials, including President, PM and Defence Minister also uncorroborated? Is the filmed rape of Palestinian prisoners also uncorroborated? It is probably the most corroborated genocide in history complete with statements of intent. This isn't really arguable. In a few months you will be claiming to have been unaware of the atrocities as the true horror is revealed.
I have read the report. I'm sorry about the Red Crescent first responders.

There is such a thing as AI generated video now, you know. One can't always believe what one sees with one's own eyes.

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2025, 07:41:AM »
I can’t believe anyone condones this,  look at this picture and tell me Israel is not guilty of Genocide!



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/28/00/102466319-15140963-image-a-18_1759015856620.jpg

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2025, 09:17:AM »
I can’t believe anyone condones this,  look at this picture and tell me Israel is not guilty of Genocide!



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/28/00/102466319-15140963-image-a-18_1759015856620.jpg

They (Israelis) openly talk about it on their own TV shows. It's not hidden that they are doing it. I find it incredible that they would literally throw away the enormous amount of empathy that Jewish people have been given by the world due to the horrific actions committed against Jews in WWII. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2025, 10:11:AM »
They (Israelis) openly talk about it on their own TV shows. It's not hidden that they are doing it. I find it incredible that they would literally throw away the enormous amount of empathy that Jewish people have been given by the world due to the horrific actions committed against Jews in WWII.
I Agree Roch, all respect and empathy has been lost.

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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2025, 07:33:PM »
I can’t believe anyone condones this,  look at this picture and tell me Israel is not guilty of Genocide!



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/28/00/102466319-15140963-image-a-18_1759015856620.jpg
Israel is not systematically killing Palestinians akin to the Holocaust. I think people should be careful before they bandy that word about.

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2025, 08:03:PM »
Israel is not systematically killing Palestinians akin to the Holocaust. I think people should be careful before they bandy that word about.
What shall we call it then Steve?   Genocide is an international crime involving acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group

A United Nations commission of inquiry says Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

Most of the population has also been repeatedly displaced; more than 90% of homes are estimated to be damaged or destroyed; the healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed; and UN-backed food security experts have declared a famine in Gaza City.


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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2025, 08:37:PM »
What shall we call it then Steve?   Genocide is an international crime involving acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group

A United Nations commission of inquiry says Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

Most of the population has also been repeatedly displaced; more than 90% of homes are estimated to be damaged or destroyed; the healthcare, water, sanitation and hygiene systems have collapsed; and UN-backed food security experts have declared a famine in Gaza City.
But there are safe places for them to go. They are not going up the chimney.

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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2025, 11:14:AM »
But there are safe places for them to go. They are not going up the chimney.
But what we are saying,  Revenge puts you at the same level as the offender: When you revenge, you become soiled like the one who hurt you, thus losing your innocence.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2025, 08:45:PM »
But what we are saying,  Revenge puts you at the same level as the offender: When you revenge, you become soiled like the one who hurt you, thus losing your innocence.
But you're forgetting what religion they are:

Exodus: 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Netanyahu on Gaza: https://youtu.be/5f5MCztASzw