Bulletpath article.

[Adam]

Really need someone to go there at night in August and film.

All we have had is a day time audio from Phillip/Yvonne & a day time visit from Trudie.

Seems The Doc Maker is not going to or has already visited at night but did not like the results.

Disappointing in 40 years. The last 20 years people have been able to use there mobiles to film.

[ILB]

Really need someone to go there at night in August and film.

All we have had is a day time audio from Phillip/Yvonne & a day time visit from Trudie.

Seems The Doc Maker is not going to or has already visited at night but did not like the results.

Disappointing in 40 years. The last 20 years people have been able to use there mobiles to film.

Last Sunday I took a picture from the view of my chalet in East Yorkshire that overlooks a farm and farmers field. It is a good open area very similar to the sea wall. A rural area.

The photo was on this site. It was pitch black. 10.30pm at night.

You seem to have a view that the sea wall is like no other place of that style in the night period. There is no time difference in any part of the UK.

[ILB]

Back in April AI did seem to agree with me.

However disagreed that Bamber didnt know the route.

[Adam]

Back in April AI did seem to agree with me.

However disagreed that Bamber didnt know the route.

Seems the defence did not claim it would be too dark at trial.

The judge just repeated what Julie had testified in his summing up.

I do agree with both sides that is was possible but there was no proof he did. Except for the bike.

[ILB]

Seems the defence did not claim it would be too dark at trial.

The judge just repeated what Julie had testified in his summing up.

I do agree with both sides that is was possible but there was no proof he did. Except for the bike.

Did RB think he went via the sea wall?

I know he investigated routes. Would be intimate with the area.

[ILB]

Seems the defence did not claim it would be too dark at trial.

They rode heavy on the fact nobody had seen him.

For me it doesnt really amount to much due to the location and area. Car, walk, and bike the road he could have all done without being seen at 2am in a sleepy quiet village.

[Adam]

AI -

A 22 rifle is generally not the preferred choice for fox control due to concerns about its effectiveness and potential for causing unnecessary suffering. While it can be used at close range with proper shot placement, it lacks the power and range needed for consistent, humane kills at longer distances.

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The bullets are very small. Similar to the tip of a pen.

Nevill or June would instantly reclaim a rifle so weak from Sheila.

If Sheila did have knowledge of the weapons at WHF, she would know that rifle would not intimidate Nevill or June.

[ILB]

AI -

A 22 rifle is generally not the preferred choice for fox control due to concerns about its effectiveness and potential for causing unnecessary suffering. While it can be used at close range with proper shot placement, it lacks the power and range needed for consistent, humane kills at longer distances.

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The bullets are very small. Similar to the tip of a pen.

Nevill or June would instantly reclaim a rifle so weak from Sheila.

If Sheila did have knowledge of the weapons at WHF, she would know that rifle would not intimidate Nevill or June.

I dont follow.

The rifle has been used in warfare.

This man who we are discussing, as you believe massacred five people with it. ( in fairness convicted of doing so)

[Adam]

AI

While .22 caliber rifles are not standard issue for front-line combat, they are sometimes used in warfare, particularly in specific scenarios like training, covert operations, and by some specialized units. Their low noise and minimal recoil make them suitable for certain tasks, but their limited range and penetration make them unsuitable for general combat use.

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Limited range and penetration. Rob said they could drop an elephant from half a mile away.

[Adam]

Limited range and recoil would have been useful.

It is a very lightweight rifle with very small bullets. Can see why it will injure but not kill foxes.

[ngb1066]

Limited range and recoil would have been useful.

It is a very lightweight rifle with very small bullets. Can see why it will injure but not kill foxes.

A .22 rimfire rifle will kill foxes and people but because it limited in power it requires accuracy.

[Steve_uk]

A .22 rimfire rifle will kill foxes and people but because it limited in power it requires accuracy.

Jeremy would know that, but I doubt Sheila would.

[ngb1066]

Jeremy would know that, but I doubt Sheila would.

I agree, but that is no indicater of guilt.

[ILB]

Limited range and recoil would have been useful.

It is a very lightweight rifle with very small bullets. Can see why it will injure but not kill foxes.

It killed human beings and has been used in warfare.

[Adam]

It killed human beings and has been used in warfare.

You have already said that.

Post 218 does relate to the warfare claim.

As said 18 shots were close range head/neck shots. Nevill may have been dead after the kitchen atrack.