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Re: DocMaker article on Milbank
« Reply #375 on: December 03, 2025, 08:05:PM »
What do you think happened at 6.09, ngb?
Or are you just waiting to see if any more documentation surfaces first?
Just noticed that I made that last post at 6.09 talking about the 6.09 call!

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« Reply #376 on: December 03, 2025, 08:11:PM »
Makes a change, phillip on Sonia's show. It does get more views than the 100+ podcasts him & Yvonne did.

Where is Yvonne?
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« Reply #377 on: December 03, 2025, 08:14:PM »
The 6.09am call has already been rejected by the CCRC. They probably had a lot more information than is online.

The audio will not change this. But keeps Bamber in the media.
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« Reply #378 on: December 03, 2025, 09:23:PM »
The 6.09am call has already been rejected by the CCRC. They probably had a lot more information than is online.

The audio will not change this. But keeps Bamber in the media.
Wonder why they rejected the Aga evidence, Adam?
They only had the info that Philip Boyce produced, nothing else.
It was brand new evidence that blew the police scenario out of the water!

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Re: DocMaker article on Milbank
« Reply #379 on: December 04, 2025, 12:25:PM »
The CCRC will have Milbank's 1985 WS.

Burrell's, Jean Rowe's, the raid teams 1985 WS's & the crime scene photos confirn the phone was off it's cradle from 4.00am onwards.
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« Reply #380 on: December 05, 2025, 07:29:PM »
I am not sure is this link has been posted yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0DNU1aTGVQ
It is a lengthy Sonia programme on Youtube dealing with the Jeremy Bamber case.  It includes a discussion with Philip Walker about the New Yorker podcasts.
I must say the Campaign Team have improved their presentation, though the content as usual is suspect:

Jeremy not dialling 999 because Nevill knew Witham police? So why doesn't Nevill telephone them himself?  No mention of the hiatus between calls.

The fostering allegation: surely Barbara Wilson has got the wrong end of the stick: wealthy farmers and pillars of the community involving the Local Authority in the upbringing of their grandchildren..I can't see it myself.

30:00 in: "We've been talking to Sheila.." Philip Walker does have a tendency to overegg the pudding, and this is one of his classic howlers. Either Sheila had opened the door to allow this conversation to happen or she was speaking from an open window or had stepped outside White House Farm. So why wasn't this event witnessed by more than a couple of people, and if it was how was it kept a secret?

No mention of the target shooting practice with Sheila or the conversation with PC Lay about buying a £38000 Porsche.

Jeremy is in deep shock, yet neither Poulton nor Walker mention he was able to drive Michael Clark and Stan Jones to his home address.

36:00 Police shot Sheila. Ludicrous, so not worthy of comment.

Jeremy had to sell heirlooms because of death duties. I'd like to inform Walker one has six months to pay, ample time for probate to be granted.

June's engagement ring. Claims Walker: "It's a shocking tale on all levels." Not so, as Pamela was her sister, and requested some of her jewellery. No mention that Jeremy went against his mother's wishes and had her cremated.

Ann and David's comportment and behaviour post-conviction is quite irrelevant, gossipy as it may be.

The Mabel Speakman will: the changing of the will was done legally, with solicitor Basil Cock in attendance.

"Jeremy Bamber is in the safety of a prison cell" Well, some would say at taxpayers' expense. Remember, he had dragged Peter and Ann up to Full Sutton on the pretext of a land hearing, then backed off at the last minute. By the way: none of the Boutflours relish the prospect of Jeremy Bamber heading to Essex, a gun about his person..

"Julie had another go.." What on earth does Philip Walker mean?
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Re: DocMaker article on Milbank
« Reply #381 on: December 05, 2025, 08:42:PM »
Julie was fully on board and complicit with Bamber.

Bamber in the immediate aftermath made many solo trips accountants here there etc whilst leaving Julie in the company of CID and the relatives

He wouldn't have done so if she wasn't in my view.
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« Reply #382 on: December 05, 2025, 08:45:PM »
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"Julie had another go.." What on earth does Philip Walker mean?

He is referring to her naming Matthew McDonald as the hitman who later was found to have a concrete alibi, before she gave the tale of solo killer Jeremy.
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« Reply #383 on: December 05, 2025, 08:47:PM »

Where is Yvonne?

You would be full of glee if she had changed stance wouldn't you? Go on admit it.
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« Reply #384 on: December 05, 2025, 08:51:PM »
He is referring to her naming Matthew McDonald as the hitman who later was found to have a concrete alibi, before she gave the tale of solo killer Jeremy.

Julies WS still has MM in it. Saying he mentions him after the massacre.

Her WS says before the massacre he was doing it himself.
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« Reply #385 on: December 05, 2025, 08:56:PM »
Julies WS still has MM in it. Saying he mentions him after the massacre.

Her WS says before the massacre he was doing it himself.

Will have to re read Julie's WS.

Can recall Julie mentioning a lull when he never talked about it.

She also did say he made no mention of it the weekend before Colin's party,  which is strange for me because I believe he would have been hyped up and chewing her ear off about it.

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Re: DocMaker article on Milbank
« Reply #386 on: December 05, 2025, 08:59:PM »
He is referring to her naming Matthew McDonald as the hitman who later was found to have a concrete alibi, before she gave the tale of solo killer Jeremy.
But they weren't separate statements: the Matthew McDonald story came from the mouth of Jeremy Bamber, which was then related by Julie. Philip Walker might have been referring to Julie's very first statement, but he didn't make that clear.

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« Reply #387 on: December 05, 2025, 09:02:PM »
But they weren't separate statements: the Matthew McDonald story came from the mouth of Jeremy Bamber, which was then related by Julie. Philip Walker might have been referring to Julie's very first statement, but he didn't make that clear.

He is referring to what I am meaning trust me, he said the same on the Shaun Attwood podcast.

Julie Mugford says Jeremy Bamber named MM, Bamber of course denies doing so.
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« Reply #388 on: December 05, 2025, 09:07:PM »
EP knew this girl was fully on board with this.

Remember she was only key because the man was denying his culpability. EP DPP ultised her and looked over her own misendevours because she was willing to testify again Bamber, who was on trial for x5 murder.

Her WS for me heavily minimize things. Never have bought her. Never will. Accept that she made an impact as a witness and Rivlin failed to put her on the ropes.

Being a fly on the wall to the conversations between Jeremy and Julie pre massacre would have been interesting.
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« Reply #389 on: December 05, 2025, 09:08:PM »
A bit risky Bamber telling Julie beforehand he is going to use MM. She may meet him beforehand & ask him.

But a good idea to use a proxy afterwards. Supporters have always said Julie can't be believed as MM did not commit the massacre. But have never said why Julie would invent MM if she wanted to frame Bamber.
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