CAL's visit to WHF.

[Hardy Boy]

Perhaps you could visit WHF and say "Hi, my name is David and I am a true crime enthusiast. I wonder if I could please have a few minutes of your time. Please tell me, did you plant Sheila's blood in the sound moderator in order to frame Jeremy Bamber".

What do you think your response would be?

You forgot to add Dan, using Sheila’s period blood from a bucket, this is what David believes Anne did Dan.  He calls everyone else Simpleton’s 😂😂

[BarefootDanC]

You forgot to add Dan, using Sheila’s period blood from a bucket, this is what David believes Anne did Dan.  He calls everyone else Simpleton’s 😂😂

There are all sorts of weird theories - the claim that is was Sheila's period blood, blood from the carpets and more commonly in the insinuation that it might have been Robert Boutflour's blood.

[snow66!]

Perhaps you could visit WHF and say "Hi, my name is David and I am a true crime enthusiast. I wonder if I could please have a few minutes of your time. Please tell me, did you plant Sheila's blood in the sound moderator in order to frame Jeremy Bamber".

What do you think your response would be?

I would visit WHF and say, hello Mrs Eaton, have you seen the Aga evidence? you have! well I presume you are in the process of re-evaluating your stance about JB being responsible for the murders?
You are? And your ready to welcome Jeremy home! Good, good, I thought as much!
Whats that? Why of course i'll come in for a dram and a chat, thankyou!
Yes, whisky will do fine!  Whats that Ann, here's to JB being a free man very soon? Yes of course, hear hear! Cheers!

Well, can you see that happening, Dan!

[David1819]

Perhaps you could visit WHF and say "Hi, my name is David and I am a true crime enthusiast. I wonder if I could please have a few minutes of your time. Please tell me, did you plant Sheila's blood in the sound moderator in order to frame Jeremy Bamber".

What do you think your response would be?

Probably how she responded to the Telegraph by not answering the question.

[ILB]

Stop being a tit and supporting Bamber because he was enthusiastic about his appeal 30 years ago.

Show me evidence Sheila could function.

Enthuastic about an appeal?

I can recall a gym session where he told me he had just been informed he had been upgraded to whole life tariff. I said he was passionate about his innocence. The 2002 appeal was a few years away. Agree we are going back over 30 years.

In answer to SC. Dates with men, cleaning jobs, planned holidays embarking on social events and trips.

Stop trying to paint Shelia as a vegetable.

[Steve_uk]

Because Bamber was determined to get his hands on the dosh that Daniel (and his sibling) would have been in line for.

Horrible and incredibly upsetting. It's why Bamber must be kept behind bars until the day he dies.

[Adam]

Enthuastic about an appeal?

I can recall a gym session where he told me he had just been informed he had been upgraded to whole life tariff. I said he was passionate about his innocence. The 2002 appeal was a few years away. Agree we are going back over 30 years.

In answer to SC. Dates with men, cleaning jobs, planned holidays embarking on social events and trips.

Stop trying to paint Shelia as a vegetable.

She couldn't hold down a job. There were no planned holidays. CC drove her to WHF where June & Nevill could monitor her. There were no social events except a party where she said nothing.

June was driving an 80 mile round trip to do her food shopping.

You are entitled to support Bamber because he seemed passionate about his appeal. But saying Sheila could function is going too far.

[ILB]

She couldn't hold down a job. There were no planned holidays. CC drove her to WHF where June & Nevill could monitor her. There were no social events except a party where she said nothing.

June was driving an 80 mile round trip to do her food shopping.

You are entitled to support Bamber because he seemed passionate about his appeal. But saying Sheila could function is going too far.

You are entitled to keep positing bollocks. And I am entitled to post what ever I want to little man.

Shelia could function. Primarily the only thing what counts in all contexts.

Not dismissing her difficulties but not taking them to the extreme like you are so you can goad.

[Roch]

Don't understand that Roch,  over Squeezed the trigger?

Did the gun have a hair trigger? It's a suggestion that the initial shots lacked control.

[Curiosity]

Did the gun have a hair trigger? It's a suggestion that the initial shots lacked control.

A couple of shooters complaining that the 525's trigger was 'hard' or 'very heavy' here -

https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/anschulz-525-advice-please.104427/

[ILB]

My championing of Shelia being " functional " isn't sticking up for Bamber.

It's simply just making sure bollocks isn't been posted.

Their is a wealth of evidence that despite her hospital stays Shelis for all extent and purposes lived a normal social life with friends, had the initiative and strength to look and undertake paid work ( being successful is another issue) and lead somewhat of a normal life despite her hospital stays for her treatment.

Shelia also asked for her dosage to be reduced because it made her drowsy. Showing that she didnt actually like the effects it was having on her.

Adams logic is June helping her daughter out by cooking food for her means she was a vegetable. Don't know what type of family background Adam comes from but many help each other out in these ways.

Also June may have imposed herself on shelia for her own reasons as it gives June something to do and be close to her daughter while Nevill is out working. June probably got a benefit out of doing it herself.

Adam just says ( or tries to imply)  " shelia was a vegetable "

[ILB]

None of us are truly going to have an insightful picture into HowShelia was functioning. We rely on second hand accounts. Had we known her in 1985 we would have had the benefit of leaping to our own judgements.

What we can draw though is in fairness the simple analogy that she had good days and bad days. But I refuse to believe she wasnt functional like Adam makes out.

[ILB]

Shelia not having the boys living with her doesnt mean Shelia wasnt functional in the normal sense.

It was of course a much better idea and common sense for the boys to live with their father while she sorted out her problems she had.

It appears that Shelia often got into money difficulties which gives the impression that the bank of Nevill and June were not just shelling out for everything ( although they more than likely got her out of debt)

The debt can show it may have been reckless spending by shelia or she just couldn't support her lifestyle on her wages.

[Jane]

Shelia not having the boys living with her doesnt mean Shelia wasnt functional in the normal sense.

It was of course a much better idea and common sense for the boys to live with their father while she sorted out her problems she had.

It appears that Shelia often got into money difficulties which gives the impression that the bank of Nevill and June were not just shelling out for everything ( although they more than likely got her out of debt)

The debt can show it may have been reckless spending by shelia or she just couldn't support her lifestyle on her wages.

I agree with most of what you say regarding Sheila's functionality, or lack of. I do, however, think well paid occupation, for her, in the working world, was very limited to non existent. She was trained for nothing. Everything she tried, failed, ergo, she either had to have been on benefits, or collecting from the bank of N&J. The tiny amount of 'cash in hand' she'd have received for cleaning or waitressing, probably wouldn't have kept her for a week. If her flat was leasehold, the maintenance charges would have been astronomical. She'd have needed to clean or wait from dawn to dusk to fund it. I imagine she was a huge drain on the Bambers' finances.

I'm not certain that she'd ever aspired to anything remotely academic. She appeared to have gone for employment which looked glamorous without any input of effort. Neither modelling nor hairdressing/manicuring fit that description! -I can speak from personal experience. I never earned well until I was teaching, but such required much hard work, and qualifications Sheila didn't have- and as she appeared to like to wear her nails long, typing would have been out of the question!

[David1819]

It seems that one minute the occupants at WHF are one minute too traumatised to discuss anything (despite living at the scene of the crime) but at other time are open to talk about it depending on who it is.


“I’m not going to speak to you, I’m just going to give you this,” she said. It was a typed statement. “Jeremy Bamber has caused so much grief and pain to this family that we find it almost impossible to deal with and rarely speak about it,” it said. “ - New Yorker