CCRC decision

[BarefootDanC]

It was not for that.  The main part was the KC's fees but there are other legal fees on top. If court proceedings are necessary (not necessarily JR) there will no doubt be a further appeal for funding.

Wow, £45,000 just for a strong letter to the CCRC! No doubt it will be a lot of money for a Judicial Review!

If the latest submission is finally rejected, a Judicial Review will be the last and only recourse.

If he get a referral to the Court of Appeal, Jeremy may be funded by legal aid.

[ngb1066]

Wow, £45,000 just for a strong letter to the CCRC! No doubt it will be a lot of money for a Judicial Review!

If the latest submission is finally rejected, a Judicial Review will be the last and only recourse.

If he get a referral to the Court of Appeal, Jeremy may be funded by legal aid.

It is a lot more than a "strong letter"! 

[David1819]

Wow, £45,000 just for a strong letter to the CCRC! No doubt it will be a lot of money for a Judicial Review!

If the latest submission is finally rejected, a Judicial Review will be the last and only recourse.

If he get a referral to the Court of Appeal, Jeremy may be funded by legal aid.

JBs case aside. I hope AI will significantly bring down the cost of legal fees across the whole legal industry.

[Jonathan]

It is a lot more than a "strong letter"!

any word on when the CCRC might respond?

[ngb1066]

any word on when the CCRC might respond?

Not as far as I am aware. 

[BarefootDanC]

It is a lot more than a "strong letter"!

Was a Letter Before Action? action being a Judicial Review

[ngb1066]

Was a Letter Before Action? action being a Judicial Review

No, it was a detailed formal response t0 the CCRC PSOR requiring them to reconsider and demanding that the CCRC refer the case to the Court of Appeal.

[Adam]

No, it was a detailed formal response t0 the CCRC PSOR requiring them to reconsider and demanding that the CCRC refer the case to the Court of Appeal.

'Demanding' ?

[ngb1066]

'Demanding' ?

Upon the basis of the evidence and arguments presented it is argued that the CCRC have a duty to refer, so "demanding" is probably a better word than "requesting".

[Jonathan]

JBs case aside. I hope AI will significantly bring down the cost of legal fees across the whole legal industry.

yes barristers are essential for examining witnesses in court but making paper legal arguments is something AI will be able to do - if it can't already

I'd be fascinated to hear the arguments that Milbank's story creates a real possibility that the convictions would not be upheld

[Adam]

The CT say with the Millbank call -

Sheila had kept herself alive for another 3 hours.

The police had been outside with a loud speaker for 2 hours.

Sheila rang 999 instead.

Millbank answered the call.

Sheila did not say anything.

Sheila did not put the phone down.

Millbank kept listening in. He heard noises & was told to hang up after EP entered.

Millbank did not tell anyone he received a call from Sheila.

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Not sure I believe that.

[BarefootDanC]

yes barristers are essential for examining witnesses in court but making paper legal arguments is something AI will be able to do - if it can't already

I'd be fascinated to hear the arguments that Milbank's story creates a real possibility that the convictions would not be upheld

This is the problem with CT "arguments". They either (1) leave out other evidence, (2) rely on assuming that lots of other people have lied and/or (3) don't take into account that material years later is much less reliable due to fading memories.

In this example:

(1) they are leaving out the contemporaneous evidence that "999" was being used to listen in to the calls - see the handwritten log. Also Jean Rowe's statement
(2) they will say that this evidence just mentioned is forged.
(3) Milbank did say he has having trouble remembering. Milbank has now passed away.