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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #210 on: July 08, 2025, 07:18:PM »
Wasn’t this the list of submissions Snow?

Issue 1 - The silencers – The corpus of evidence that two silencers featured in the case and were forensically examined. There are multiple grounds regarding chain of evidence and contaminate issues.
 
Why is this important? One example of the many grounds here is on the Crown’s assertions that a tiny flake of blood inside one of the silencers was a match for Sheila Caffell only. The jury were not told it was also an exact match for the beneficiary Robert Boutflour. This links to Issue 6 and Issue 8.

 
Issue 2 – The telephone calls – Substantial fresh evidence regarding the telephone call from Nevill Bamber to Jeremy and two phone calls to the police, one made by Nevill at 03:26, one made by Jeremy at 03:36.
 
Why this is important? This is Jeremy’s alibi. The Crown told the jury that a single phone call was made from Jeremy to the police. Proving that Jeremy and the police had a call from Nevill Bamber to alert them to the unfolding incident is Jeremy’s alibi.
 
 
Issue 3 – The integrity of the scene – Detailed grounds including fresh evidence regarding the police interference with the scene and the exhibits.
 
Why this is important? Movement of items and the deceased by the police prior and during crime scene photographs being taken which contradicted evidence in disclosed police statements.  An untruthful and inaccurate scenario was then created by the police at a later stage in an attempt to implicate Jeremy Bamber.
 
 
Issue 4 – The windows at White House Farm - Multiple grounds in relation to the kitchen and the downstairs shower room windows that undermines the Crown’s evidence at trial.

Why this is important? The windows were supposedly Jeremy Bamber’s means of entry and exit to the locked house. The fresh evidence proves there was no signs of forced entry and therefore, no one entered the house.
 
 
Issue 5 – Sheila Caffell – Multiple grounds which prove Sheila was alive until after the raid team entered the house. In addition, fresh evidence regarding Sheila at the scene.

Why this is important? Jeremy Bamber was standing outside the house in the company of many police officers when activity was logged as occurring within the house. Therefore, he cannot have been involved. 
 
 
Issue 6 - Photographic issues – Multiple, very focused grounds regarding the non-disclosure of case photographs in respect of many individual case issues.

 
Why this is important? One example is that Essex police and scientists took lots of photographs of the case silencers which have never been disclosed. These would prove two featured in the case but were merged into one exhibit which the crown claimed was on the gun and had blood inside from Sheila Caffell. This links to Issue 1.
 
 
Issue 7 - Complaints against police officers – Detailed and focused on the actions of two key police officers and their interference in the case from 1985 to date.
 
Why this is important? The senior Scenes of Crime officer, DI Cook, and the Senior Investigating Officer, DSI Ainsley, retained undisclosed case material and exhibits they later supplied to members of the public. They were responsible for a range of actions in manipulating the case including lying to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
 

Issue 8 - Inheritance issues – Multiple grounds regarding the actions of the beneficiaries in the case and how the jury were deceived. 
 
Why this is important? The wealth of evidence shows that there was clear motive for witnesses, including Jeremy Bamber’s Uncle, Robert Boutflour to lie on oath in order to achieve the conviction. This was the only way they would inherit from June’s, Nevill’s and Sheila’s estates. This was undisclosed to the court when the jury asked if they had motive. This links to issue 1.

 

Brand new forensic reports have been obtained to support a range of grounds within the main Issues.
Thanks, HB! Yes, it looka as if the Aga evidence may have been included in issue 3 to support the claim that Nevill was moved from the Aga to the chair/scuttle by the police after entry!
If so, the Aga evidence has been wasted in my opinion!

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #211 on: July 09, 2025, 04:48:AM »
The CCRC decision is no surprise.

Only 5% of people charged get a 'not guilty' verdict at court. Some were convicted later under 'double jeopardy'.

The rest plead guilty pre trial or are found guilty by a jury.
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #212 on: July 09, 2025, 07:05:AM »

Only 5% of people charged get a 'not guilty' verdict at court. Some were convicted later under 'double jeopardy'.


Its around 22% actually

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1100769/conviction-rate-in-england-and-wales/

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #213 on: July 09, 2025, 07:23:AM »
Its around 22% actually

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1100769/conviction-rate-in-england-and-wales/

66% plead guilty.

Of the 34% that plead 'not guilty', 15% are successful.

Have posted the sources before.

I calculated that at a total of 5% found 'not guilty'. Could be wrong. Was not great at maths 
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #214 on: July 09, 2025, 08:03:AM »
66% plead guilty.

Of the 34% that plead 'not guilty', 15% are successful.

Have posted the sources before.

I calculated that at a total of 5% found 'not guilty'. Could be wrong. Was not great at maths

The stats only include contested trials.

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #215 on: August 15, 2025, 06:05:AM »
The CT are saying the PSOR are on -

999 call.

2 silencers.

Blood evidence.

Nevill calling Chelmsford Police.

Interference in the crime scene before photos.

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Unless NGB says otherwise, the last one will include Nevill being moved from the aga.
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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #216 on: April 10, 2026, 10:49:AM »
What is happening with the CCRC submission made during Mar 2021 (I think)? 

Has it all been thrown out or are parts still under consideration?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #217 on: April 10, 2026, 11:07:AM »
What is happening with the CCRC submission made during Mar 2021 (I think)? 

Has it all been thrown out or are parts still under consideration?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12850.msg593153.html#msg593153

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #218 on: April 10, 2026, 01:02:PM »
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Offline BarefootDanC

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #219 on: April 10, 2026, 01:32:PM »
Thanks but I'm still unsure as to what exactly is happening?  ???

The latest is the Campaign Team have responded to the PSOR with a reply from a KC - David Emanuel. They asked for donations of £45,000 towards this and raised £30,000.

I don't know whether this £45,000 also includes the cost of a Judicial Review against the CCRC or whether there will be another fund raise!

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #220 on: April 10, 2026, 01:45:PM »
The latest is the Campaign Team have responded to the PSOR with a reply from a KC - David Emanuel. They asked for donations of £45,000 towards this and raised £30,000.

I don't know whether this £45,000 also includes the cost of a Judicial Review against the CCRC or whether there will be another fund raise!

They only needed 20k for the KC - not sure what the extra 10k was for I don't think they ever said

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #221 on: April 15, 2026, 10:50:PM »
They only needed 20k for the KC - not sure what the extra 10k was for I don't think they ever said

My understanding was they aimed for £20,000 initially because £20,000 was much easier to raise before the deadline, then when they got £20,000, they "stretched" the target to £30,000

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #222 on: April 16, 2026, 08:56:AM »
My understanding was they aimed for £20,000 initially because £20,000 was much easier to raise before the deadline, then when they got £20,000, they "stretched" the target to £30,000

yeah I guess so they didn't need to dip so much into other funds

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #223 on: April 16, 2026, 01:47:PM »
yeah I guess so they didn't need to dip so much into other funds

I wonder if the full £45,000 is needed for when their KC appears in court for permission to apply for Judicial Review.

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Re: CCRC decision
« Reply #224 on: April 16, 2026, 02:11:PM »
I wonder if the full £45,000 is needed for when their KC appears in court for permission to apply for Judicial Review.

It was not for that.  The main part was the KC's fees but there are other legal fees on top. If court proceedings are necessary (not necessarily JR) there will no doubt be a further appeal for funding.