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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #435 on: May 16, 2025, 07:11:PM »
I only banned her for a week, I didn't ban her permanently. I have told her this before, initially, she thought it was me - not guilty of the full ban.

So who is "guilty" of the full ban?


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #436 on: May 16, 2025, 07:13:PM »
I enjoyed my time on the Red forum.

Unfortunately that is the problem.


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #437 on: May 16, 2025, 07:18:PM »
Are you joking? You don't remember the feud we had? I object to being patronised and I found her patronising. No objection to her posts but we didn't see eye to eye. Some people you like, some you don't - she was a don't.

In defence of Patti, she was always friendly with me and was also loyal when it mattered - as was Roch. Others were far less so.   Although this was a long time ago it is still very real for me.  I know this does not matter to other members but it was very painful for some of us.  We do not forget.


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #438 on: May 16, 2025, 07:25:PM »
I actually asked CC in 2017 why does she not come back.  She said because Maggie would not allow it or leave the forum out of protest if she couldn't stop her.

Maggie was treated appallingly. This was before your time on the forum.  She was one of the kindest people I have dealt with.  I cannot forgive what was done to her by several people.  She was a really wonderful person and I spoke to her several times and then had the privilege of viewing her funeral online.  It was really moving.  I do not want to say more but some people should reflect on their conduct. 

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #439 on: May 16, 2025, 07:26:PM »
Unfortunately that is the problem.

Problem for whom? 
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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #440 on: May 16, 2025, 07:57:PM »
So who is "guilty" of the full ban?

All I know is, it wasn't me. I banned for for a week, that was reduced because Patti thought a week was too long. At that point, I lost interest and didn't want to be involved but then CC started throwing bricks over the red wall and that's when she got banned but not by me - but I did get the blame.

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #441 on: May 16, 2025, 08:00:PM »
Maggie was treated appallingly. This was before your time on the forum.  She was one of the kindest people I have dealt with.  I cannot forgive what was done to her by several people.  She was a really wonderful person and I spoke to her several times and then had the privilege of viewing her funeral online.  It was really moving.  I do not want to say more but some people should reflect on their conduct.

There has been a lot of abuse on this forum. It would be interesting how we would all interact on a live video conference/meeting.

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #442 on: May 16, 2025, 08:02:PM »
In defence of Patti, she was always friendly with me and was also loyal when it mattered - as was Roch. Others were far less so.   Although this was a long time ago it is still very real for me.  I know this does not matter to other members but it was very painful for some of us.  We do not forget.

She was an absolute bitch to me, but she never struck me as a girls girl. We've all be affected at times by things that have gone on here, none of us really know each other and I honestly don't expect loyalty from anyone. I've always stood up for myself in a hostile situation and now it only matters for as long as I have my laptop open at the forum page.

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #443 on: May 16, 2025, 08:22:PM »
Maggie was treated appallingly. This was before your time on the forum.  She was one of the kindest people I have dealt with.  I cannot forgive what was done to her by several people.  She was a really wonderful person and I spoke to her several times and then had the privilege of viewing her funeral online.  It was really moving.  I do not want to say more but some people should reflect on their conduct.

You should just say it? If you are referring to myself and Jane, I'm afraid you weren't given the full story - so I will say it here. When the three of us were mods, Maggie found out she was ill, obviously, she couldn't play her part in dealing with forum issues and she was here less and less. She asked Jane if she should take a back seat and Jane said that she thought it might be a good idea so she could concentrate on getting well and I agreed with Jane. Maggie took offence - I guess she was expecting us both to ask her to stay, we were concerned for her health and also needed someone who could back us up when things kicked off and we couldn't expect that of Maggie - she had enough to contend with.

Rumours started flying via PM's (Patti, Susan, Maggie and I believe Graham) about how Jane and I had been horrible to Maggie. Susan at one point had fell out with Maggie and as usual sounded off to me via PM. I said something like 'you can never win against cancer' - meaning that because of her illness, no matter what we said, we would always be seen as the villains - no doubt Susan reported back to Maggie without any explanation of what I meant or the context. That was it in a nutshell. I actually spoke to Maggie many times about this and chatted on the phone. The problem is, things get dragged out of proportion, then the gossip wheel starts turning but I have no regrets for anything I said or did because I know what was said and how it was meant. People can believe what they like and harbour grudges but my conscience is clear as far as this forum is concerned.
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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #444 on: May 16, 2025, 08:26:PM »
There has been a lot of abuse on this forum. It would be interesting how we would all interact on a live video conference/meeting.

You would see no change from me - NONE!

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #445 on: May 16, 2025, 09:25:PM »
You should just say it? If you are referring to myself and Jane, I'm afraid you weren't given the full story - so I will say it here. When the three of us were mods, Maggie found out she was ill, obviously, she couldn't play her part in dealing with forum issues and she was here less and less. She asked Jane if she should take a back seat and Jane said that she thought it might be a good idea so she could concentrate on getting well and I agreed with Jane. Maggie took offence - I guess she was expecting us both to ask her to stay, we were concerned for her health and also needed someone who could back us up when things kicked off and we couldn't expect that of Maggie - she had enough to contend with.

Rumours started flying via PM's (Patti, Susan, Maggie and I believe Graham) about how Jane and I had been horrible to Maggie. Susan at one point had fell out with Maggie and as usual sounded off to me via PM. I said something like 'you can never win against cancer' - meaning that because of her illness, no matter what we said, we would always be seen as the villains - no doubt Susan reported back to Maggie without any explanation of what I meant or the context. That was it in a nutshell. I actually spoke to Maggie many times about this and chatted on the phone. The problem is, things get dragged out of proportion, then the gossip wheel starts turning but I have no regrets for anything I said or did because I know what was said and how it was meant. People can believe what they like and harbour grudges but my conscience is clear as far as this forum is concerned.

You have really misunderstood what I was saying.  I was certainly not having a go at you or Jane about this and I can honestly say I had no idea of the history of went on behind the scenes without my knowledge between you and Maggie.  My complaint was actually directed elsewhere and I do recall you were aware of the background to it. I would rather not go over it again but as I recall you were supportive of Maggie on the issue and very critical of the individual involved. 


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #446 on: May 16, 2025, 09:29:PM »
Problem for whom?

It was actually a problem for a number of people.  Although I do not think you realise it, it was also a problem for you. 


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #447 on: May 16, 2025, 09:34:PM »
She was an absolute bitch to me, but she never struck me as a girls girl. We've all be affected at times by things that have gone on here, none of us really know each other and I honestly don't expect loyalty from anyone. I've always stood up for myself in a hostile situation and now it only matters for as long as I have my laptop open at the forum page.

I am sorry to hear that, but when some of us were being viciously attacked Patti never wavered.  She remained staunch and was ridiculed for it. 


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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #448 on: May 16, 2025, 09:38:PM »
It was actually a problem for a number of people.  Although I do not think you realise it, it was also a problem for you.

Hmmm do you mean in a blissful ignorance sort of way?
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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #449 on: May 16, 2025, 09:51:PM »
Hmmm do you mean in a blissful ignorance sort of way?

Do you really want to wind me up and provoke me into posting chapter and verse on this?  Because you have actually contributed a lot and have a better understanding than most (if not all) about the key issues in the case I have cut you far more slack than has been the case for anyone else.  We have shared insights into the case outside the forum, as you know.  I have taken you into my confidence because I respect your insight and you are on a personal level easy to deal with.  However you also know that I am very critical of you in relation to your friendly interaction with some totally evil scumbags and your validation of some really venal conduct. I do not want to go into this but you really do have to appreciate, as others do, that I feel really strongly about it.