Adam's Claims...

[Hardy Boy]

38. At 8.10 a.m., Dr Craig attended the scene to formally certify the deaths. In cross-examination at the trial he said the deaths could have occurred at any time during the previous night. The appearance of Sheila Caffell's body suggested to him that the wounds had been inflicted by her own hand.In answer to the judge the witness made it clear this was not an opinion the jury should rely upon as a true indication that the injuries had been self-inflicted.

Thanks, but in fairness he certified death of June at 8.44am and he certified death of Sheila at 8.44 am, he certified death of the boys at 8.50 am, he didn’t do anything other than certify death and appearance wise, and feedback I doubt he would have said any other?

[Cambridgecutie]

Thanks, but in fairness he certified death of June at 8.44am and he certified death of Sheila at 8.44 am, he certified death of the boys at 8.50 am, he didn’t do anything other than certify death and appearance wise, and feedback I doubt he would have said any other?

Well he testified at trial as per what I've quoted.  He also spent some time talking with JB to establish whether or not he was fit to provide a statement.

[ILB]

How could you possibly know this?  You don't so please stop pretending otherwise.

You don't.

[Zoso]

Maggie, Susan, Lookout, Caroline, Jane, Patti.  In posts on the red forum.  When you joined the red forum following a temporary ban here under your username Egap1.

When you rejoined here under a new username you were spotted quickly.  There were several calls for you to be banned again.  It annoyed some people when there was no ban.

For the record, I didn't want CC to be banned permanently, I wanted her to live out the weeks ban that I applied because of Susan whining on. If truth be known, this was all down to Susan in the first place. She caused problems because she whispered in so many ears, turning people against each other. CC made a comment about her being fat (which she clearly wasn't) and Susan brought on the crocodile tears with PM's to the mods. Also, as much as I hate to defend her (no love lost) Patti didn't want CC banned in the first place. I recall the reason for the 'full ban' (which I got the blame for) was because she went over to red and started bleating. To be honest, it was all childish BS and bitchy tit for tat!

[Roch]

Also, as much as I hate to defend her (no love lost) Patti didn't want CC banned in the first place.

What happened between you and Patti. I always thought Patti was a great poster. Unlke me and many supporters, Patti was a supporter who didn't believe there was a conspiracy. I found that an interesting line to take.

[Cambridgecutie]

For the record, I didn't want CC to be banned permanently, I wanted her to live out the weeks ban that I applied because of Susan whining on. If truth be known, this was all down to Susan in the first place. She caused problems because she whispered in so many ears, turning people against each other. CC made a comment about her being fat (which she clearly wasn't) and Susan brought on the crocodile tears with PM's to the mods. Also, as much as I hate to defend her (no love lost) Patti didn't want CC banned in the first place. I recall the reason for the 'full ban' (which I got the blame for) was because she went over to red and started bleating. To be honest, it was all childish BS and bitchy tit for tat!

I would agree with the above in terms of how it all played out. 

[ngb1066]

For the record, I didn't want CC to be banned permanently, I wanted her to live out the weeks ban that I applied because of Susan whining on. If truth be known, this was all down to Susan in the first place. She caused problems because she whispered in so many ears, turning people against each other. CC made a comment about her being fat (which she clearly wasn't) and Susan brought on the crocodile tears with PM's to the mods. Also, as much as I hate to defend her (no love lost) Patti didn't want CC banned in the first place. I recall the reason for the 'full ban' (which I got the blame for) was because she went over to red and started bleating. To be honest, it was all childish BS and bitchy tit for tat!

CC has always believed I banned her.  I never corrected her on that because that would not have been fair to the other mods, but at least she now knows.  We discussed terminating the ban before the seven day period but the posts on the red forum whipped everything up again and made it much more difficult.  I agree that a lot of this was school playground behaviour although there was a nasty edge to some of it which caused genuine upset.  I actually invited CC back because nothing that had happened was in the same category as with the other characters on the red forum.  CC declined, but then of course came back under a different identity.



 

[David1819]

I actually invited CC back because nothing that had happened was in the same category as with the other characters on the red forum.  CC declined, but then of course came back under a different identity.
 

I actually asked CC in 2017 why does she not come back.  She said because Maggie would not allow it or leave the forum out of protest if she couldn't stop her.

[Cambridgecutie]

I actually asked CC in 2017 why does she not come back.  She said because Maggie would not allow it or leave the forum out of protest if she couldn't stop her.

Have you got nothing better to do with your time?  You are sounding like an old woman.  FFS.  When we met in Dec 2016 you were in your late 20's so now in your late 30's.  Do you ever worry life is passing you by?  When I was your age I had far more important things to do with my time than concern myself about a bunch of women dubbed the 'knitting circle' having a spat.

I enjoyed my time on the Red forum.

[Adam]

My 5 point narrative is

Bamber used a silencer in a silent massacre attempt - Credible.

The silencer aquired Sheila's blood, paint, a scratch & grey hair - Credible.

Bamber had to take it off after shooting Sheila - Fact! 

He put it back in it's box without cleaning it - Credible.

Suspicious relatives found it - Credible.

[Adam]

To be fair it is the prosecution narrative.

They would not present this at trial if it was not credible.

It is backed up with other evidence confirming his guilt and WS's & court testimonies.

[Zoso]

What happened between you and Patti. I always thought Patti was a great poster. Unlke me and many supporters, Patti was a supporter who didn't believe there was a conspiracy. I found that an interesting line to take.

Are you joking? You don't remember the feud we had? I object to being patronised and I found her patronising. No objection to her posts but we didn't see eye to eye. Some people you like, some you don't - she was a don't.

[Zoso]

CC has always believed I banned her.  I never corrected her on that because that would not have been fair to the other mods, but at least she now knows.  We discussed terminating the ban before the seven day period but the posts on the red forum whipped everything up again and made it much more difficult.  I agree that a lot of this was school playground behaviour although there was a nasty edge to some of it which caused genuine upset.  I actually invited CC back because nothing that had happened was in the same category as with the other characters on the red forum.  CC declined, but then of course came back under a different identity.



 

I only banned her for a week, I didn't ban her permanently. I have told her this before, initially, she thought it was me - not guilty of the full ban.

[Zoso]

Have you got nothing better to do with your time?  You are sounding like an old woman.  FFS.  When we met in Dec 2016 you were in your late 20's so now in your late 30's.  Do you ever worry life is passing you by?  When I was your age I had far more important things to do with my time than concern myself about a bunch of women dubbed the 'knitting circle' having a spat.

I enjoyed my time on the Red forum.

 

[Hardy Boy]

Nice to see you back Zoso.