Adam's Claims...

[ILB]

Have referenced there is limited ( if any) scope for him 40 years on to prove the silencer was tampered with.

[ILB]

As said earlier I just look at things down the middle weigh it up and make a judgement from my personal perspective.

I think all things considered the evidence of the silencer is suspect.

I am just a man on a forum.

[Adam]

Have referenced there is limited ( if any) scope for him 40 years on to prove the silencer was tampered with.

Agree it got moved around. WHF, Oak Farm, SJ, Huntingdon.

All that was from neccessity.

Losing the hair may have benefitted Bamber if it was Nevill's.

[ILB]

Why do you believe he wanted his parents cremated?

And why do you believe he seemed concerned when it was announced tests were going to be undertaken?

[ILB]

To plan everything to a tee, and then just put a silencer back in box without a clean.........

[Adam]

To plan everything to a tee, and then just put a silencer back in box without a clean.........

That is what happened.

He did make a lot of mistakes. Both inside and outside of WHF. It was a big step up from robbing the caravan site.

[Adam]

It was classed as murder/suicide for a few days.

That is the direction he led the police in on the 7th August 1985.

Evidence had not been processed or Julie come forward.

[ILB]

That is what happened.

He did make a lot of mistakes. Both inside and outside of WHF. It was a big step up from robbing the caravan site.

What mistakes apart from Julie and the moderator ?

[ILB]

That is what happened.

He did make a lot of mistakes. Both inside and outside of WHF. It was a big step up from robbing the caravan site.

It's alleged by some he was involved in crime in NZ, including how he got the cartier watches.

Julie says he planned to rob an Arab and he was ever contemplating breaking into Andy and Karen Bishops house.

There was also a drug investigation going on.

So it's possible he was involved in low level crime. But of course this is small potatoes when compared to the massacre.

To me I'd be a hypocrite for calling him out on this. But I see why some might. You yourself reference often his behaviour in reference to what he was doing and up to to his detriment prior the massacre.

[Adam]

What mistakes apart from Julie and the moderator ?

There is a mountain of forensic and circumstantial evidence against him.

He was no Neil McCauley & going for a big jump to the big prize.

[Adam]

Even Neil McCauley made mistakes.

[ILB]

What circumstantial evidence?

The phonecalls?

[ILB]

The whole basis of the conviction is on the silencer and Julie.

For me anyway.

Believe some don't even see Julie's evidence as crucial.

[Steve_uk]

It's alleged by some he was involved in crime in NZ, including how he got the cartier watches.

Julie says he planned to rob an Arab and he was ever contemplating breaking into Andy and Karen Bishops house.

There was also a drug investigation going on.

So it's possible he was involved in low level crime. But of course this is small potatoes when compared to the massacre.

To me I'd be a hypocrite for calling him out on this. But I see why some might. You yourself reference often his behaviour in reference to what he was doing and up to to his detriment prior the massacre.

It's not so much the crime which is telling (we also had an allegation recently that he had his finger in the till at Sloppy Joe's), but the fact that he blabbed about it to anyone who would listen.

Sound familiar?

[Steve_uk]

Why do you believe he wanted his parents cremated?

And why do you believe he seemed concerned when it was announced tests were going to be undertaken?

Possibly because he didn't want a memorial. Remember he had told Julie they had "forfeited the right to live." The gravestone and the lantern would not be at his behest.