Adam's Claims...

[ILB]

The prosecution narrative on all aspects needs to be as straight forward as possible.

Too complex, intricate or confusing will just create reasonable doubt.

The simple explanations are usually the right ones.

On the silencer you can't get a more straight forward narrative than -

Bamber used it then put it away. Suspiscious relatives then found it.

I know what the prosecution narrative is and as you know Jeremy disputes it. But fair play, they got the result. He remains convicted, come October it's 39 years.

[ILB]

All I can do as a man on a forum is look at things objectively and weigh them up and give a judgement on how I see what I believe the most likely scenario is.

The same as everybody else.

It is forum fodder that's all it is.

[David1819]

Thanks for that Adam.

Perhaps you will convince somebody of the guilt of Jeremy one day. It has been 12 years.

Adam spent many years thinking he had convinced three people shortly after he joined the forum. It was a huge setback for him when it was pointed out to him he had joined the forum a month before Paul Harrison had changed his agenda (which was the reason those three people changed stance).


Several years later someone came out the blue praising Adam's posts, but it turned out to be a JB supporter on a drink binge.

Poor Adam.

[snow66!]

The prosecution narrative on all aspects needs to be as straight forward as possible.

Too complex, intricate or confusing will just create reasonable doubt.

The simple explanations are usually the right ones.

On the silencer you can't get a more straight forward narrative than -

Bamber used it then put it away. Suspiscious relatives then found it.

But its not straight forward the relatives finding the silencer instead of the police, Adam!
Far from it!
Highly irregular to say the least!

[Adam]

All I can do as a man on a forum is look at things objectively and weigh them up and give a judgement on how I see what I believe the most likely scenario is.

The same as everybody else.

It is forum fodder that's all it is.

The defence couldn't claim Bamber would have cleaned the silencer before putting it away.

That would have suggested police fabrication. Which is too far fetched.

Even Bamber did not start suggesting fabrication until the 90's.

[Adam]

For me, no guarantee he would clean the silencer before putting it away.

It is easy to say he should/would have.

The evidence is he didn't.

[snow66!]

For me, no guarantee he would clean the silencer before putting it away.

It is easy to say he should/would have.

The evidence is he didn't.

Yes, he had to get his priorities right, Adam!
Far more important burning Nevills back for several minutes!

[ILB]

For me.

If a person uses a sound moderator which has had direct contact with skin. They either clean it or dispose of it.

If you believe he washed his clothes, ordered the burning of carpets and wanted his parents cremated, you have to believe they were down to forensic awareness as a guilter.

[ILB]

The defence couldn't claim Bamber would have cleaned the silencer before putting it away.

That would have suggested police fabrication. Which is too far fetched.

Even Bamber did not start suggesting fabrication until the 90's.

Well he was arguing this in 2002 in front of the countries top three judges.

[Adam]

For me.

If a person uses a sound moderator which has had direct contact with skin. They either clean it or dispose of it.

If you believe he washed his clothes, ordered the burning of carpets and wanted his parents cremated, you have to believe they were down to forensic awareness as a guilter.

Agree he would take it off after killing Sheila & take it downstairs.

The evidence is he didn't clean it before putting it back in his box.

Not an own goal for the police. But for the relatives.

We all make mistakes.

[Adam]

The COA just says -

149. The appellant returned the moderator to the gun cupboard.

[ILB]

The COA just says -

149. The appellant returned the moderator to the gun cupboard.

That is a reference to the prosecution case.

[Adam]

AI said this -

'The actions of individuals in such situations are highly variable and depend on many factors, including the specific circumstances, their knowledge, and their personal values.

Additionally, the question is framed in a way that implies cleaning the silencer is a natural or expected action, which may not be the case.'

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I asked what % of people would clean the silencer in Bamber's situation.

No guarantee any person in that situation would or would not clean the silencer.

[ILB]

Accept you are a passionate guilter.

[Adam]

Have to go by the evidence - Bamber did not.

He did put it in it's box. At the back of a gun cupboard. Away from the crime scene.

This was sufficient for the police to believe his murder/suicide narrative.