Tell me you are conspiract theorist without telling me you are a consp. theorist

[Roch]

The CCRC watch articles on Bamber are incredible cranky.

Is Henley cranky? His criticisms are the same as CCRC Watch's criticisms.

[ILB]

In all honesty no matter what side of the coin you believe how can an individual get kicks trolling/sock puppeting over what is a criminal case involving the deaths of five people , two of them children?

If you believe him guilty then fair enough, I can't see what agenda someone would have in trolling or trying to damage the cause of an individual unless directly related to the case. What is the personal gain?

[Roch]

But Roch, if the submissions are so compelling, why do they need to do more than "desktop reviews"? We are told that they already have evidence that sound moderator was not on the gun, that Sheila was still alive at 6:09 and so on.

I see where you're coming from. I'm guessing the submissions tell the CCRC where they need to look. Malkinson said they wanted everything handed to them on a plate. It should say that in their 'about us' section I posted up..

[Cambridgecutie]

Didn't Vanezis say 'recent', strongly hinting that they were made on the night of the murders, Cutie?
Indeed, why get experts to try and work out what made the marks and discuss them at trial unless they were quite sure the marks were made to Nevills back that night?
Surely the CCRC will have to keep this in mind?

I've explained my thoughts about this before snow66!  Yes the marks were caused on the night.  When someone dies blood pools in the lowest parts of the body.  If you consider NB's found position the location of the marks was the highest part of his body.  His spine was stretched and his head pointing towards the floor.  As a result of all of this the surgical hardware started to protrude through the skin from the inside and caused the 3 marks. 

It doesn't really matter anyway because the marks could not and will not ever assist JB with the CCRC/CoA.  They didn't form part of the prosecution case against JB.  The expert evidence at trial was inconclusive.  And more importantly it doesn't strike at the heart of the prosecution case against JB ie the blood in the silencer.

[Cambridgecutie]

In all honesty no matter what side of the coin you believe how can an individual get kicks trolling/sock puppeting over what is a criminal case involving the deaths of five people , two of them children?

If you believe him guilty then fair enough, I can't see what agenda someone would have in trolling or trying to damage the cause of an individual unless directly related to the case. What is the personal gain?

Well I think they are so convinced JB is guilty they find the likes of those who they regard as 'supporters' as quite unpalatable. 

[ILB]

I've explained my thoughts about this before snow66!  Yes the marks were caused on the night.  When someone dies blood pools in the lowest parts of the body.  If you consider NB's found position the location of the marks was the highest part of his body.  His spine was stretched and his head pointing towards the floor.  As a result of all of this the surgical hardware started to protrude through the skin from the inside and caused the 3 marks. 

It doesn't really matter anyway because the marks could not and will not ever assist JB with the CCRC/CoA.  They didn't form part of the prosecution case against JB.  The expert evidence at trial was inconclusive.  And more importantly it doesn't strike at the heart of the prosecution case against JB ie the blood in the silencer.

Silencer and JM

[ngb1066]

Have you seen some of the trolling which takes place in the Facebook groups?

I have seen some of it.  it is disgusting.  It is why I do not participate.

[Cambridgecutie]

Silencer and JM

Blood.

[BarefootDanC]

I see where you're coming from. I'm guessing the submissions tell the CCRC where they need to look. Malkinson said they wanted everything handed to them on a plate. It should say that in their 'about us' section I posted up..

Again, we are told that the submissions contain "irrefutable" proof of the Campaign Teams claim. In other words, they say the CCRC should made a referral on several grounds even without any further investigation. Supposedly, the CCRC already have the evidence "on a plate".

[ILB]

Well I think they are so convinced JB is guilty they find the likes of those who they regard as 'supporters' as quite unpalatable.

My grandmother once said " Tony Martin should have swung, he looks a swine, granted though he did shoot someone dead. Albeit breaking into his farmhouse.

Will never forget that tea and biscuit conversation.

You get the insinuation though.

[Cambridgecutie]

Have you seen some of the trolling which takes place in the Facebook groups?

Can you provide a link please?

[ILB]

Blood.

Who's?

[ngb1066]

You are just miffed because Puglove didn't appreciate your hairstyle 

To the best of my knowledge Myster was someone with the initials P? (can't immediately find old emails from him).  I am pretty sure he was not part of a forum sock puppet.

I objected to "Puglove" (I could name her but I will not at this point even though I am tempted) because she is pure scum.  She has no idea about my hairstyle - only David has had the privilege of meeting me! I have a full head of hair! I think he will confirm that Puglove's drunken rantings on this were completely wide of the mark.  Myster was certainly part of a sock puppet duo.  I am afraid I know a lot more about the characters associated with that forum than you do.

 

[ngb1066]

I have seen some of it.  it is disgusting.  It is why I do not participate.

To be clear, some of the so called Bamber supporters are abusive idiots.  They harm his cause.  Unfortunately there is an almost tribal approach sometimes which results in some good people failing to take a stand against the idiots.  I could say a lot more but will not at this stage.

 

[snow66!]

I've explained my thoughts about this before snow66!  Yes the marks were caused on the night.  When someone dies blood pools in the lowest parts of the body.  If you consider NB's found position the location of the marks was the highest part of his body.  His spine was stretched and his head pointing towards the floor.  As a result of all of this the surgical hardware started to protrude through the skin from the inside and caused the 3 marks. 

It doesn't really matter anyway because the marks could not and will not ever assist JB with the CCRC/CoA.  They didn't form part of the prosecution case against JB.  The expert evidence at trial was inconclusive.  And more importantly it doesn't strike at the heart of the prosecution case against JB ie the blood in the silencer.

Why didn't Vanezis find details of the surgical hardware in Nevills medical records, Cutie?
In fact if you are correct, all the CCRC has to do is access Nevs records to rule out the Aga evidence.