Nevill not wanting police involved in domestics:

[Jane]

Yes, and Bamber aware that they may be being overheard.

Indeed. An important point, Steve.

[ILB]

Yes, and Bamber aware that they may be being overheard.

He seems not to have had that fear at 10pm when he phoned Julie.

Which you believe he would have done because SB was in close proximity apparently.

[Steve_uk]

He seems not to have had that fear at 10pm when he phoned Julie.

Which you believe he would have done because SB was in close proximity apparently.

But it was still expressed in code even then. "Tonight's the night" can mean many things.

[Hardy Boy]

The other thing is, if Nevill didn't want the police involved, why did Bamber call them?

He said it didn’t cross his mind to dial 999 even though his Father had asked him to come quickly?

144. Having received the telephone call from his father, the appellant said that it had not crossed his mind to use the 999 system to call the police. Instead he described spending a little time looking up the number for Colchester Police Station. On that particular page of the directory (which he was shown in the witness box) it reads in bold type, "In emergency call the operator (dial 999 where appropriate) and ask for the police". The appellant agreed that on his account, even though his father had asked him to come quickly, he had then telephoned Julie Mugford and then driven slowly to the farmhouse. He agreed it would also have been possible for him to have called one of the farm workers, he said he had not considered that,

[ILB]

He said he thought " he didn't think it would make a difference in how long police would take to turn up " and " he didn't know how the system worked "

He was impatient when he was on hold with PC West. When West returned to the call JB angrily said " Jesus's christ, you took ages"

For me, I don't understand from the his perspective why he didn't phone 999. It's not incriminating in him doing so and either way WHF was going to be a major crime scene swarmed by police at some point.

[Hardy Boy]

He said he thought " he didn't think it would make a difference in how long police would take to turn up " and " he didn't know how the system worked "

He was impatient when he was on hold with PC West. When West returned to the call JB angrily said " Jesus's christ, you took ages"

For me, I don't understand from the his perspective why he didn't phone 999. It's not incriminating in him doing so and either way WHF was going to be a major crime scene swarmed by police at some point.

This is from the COA ILB?

[ILB]

This is from the COA ILB?

PC West WS and PS Bews WS

Reference his perspective, my own views. I genuinely wonder why as a gulity man he would swerve phoning 999 and look up a number. Either way it was going to be a crime scene.

[Hardy Boy]

PC WS and PS Bews WS

Reference his perspective, my own views. I genuinely wonder why as a gulity man he would swerve phoning 999 and look up a number. Either way it was going to be a crime scene.

I don’t think we will ever know ILB, why he woke Julie up at 3.00am, when his father asked him to come quickly, why he never rang the police on 999, why he drove slowly instead of quickly, Bamber Knows why and so to does Mugford in my view?

[Adam]

Three reasons I can think of why he called Chelmsford Police -

The further out a police car is despatched from, the more chance he has of getting picked up.

The further out a police car is despatched from, the longer it will take them to get there. If they refuse to pick him up.

Looking through Yello Pages helps explain a gap after Nevill's call.

[ILB]

Three reasons I can think of why he called Chelmsford Police -

The further out a police car is despatched from, the more chance he has of getting picked up.

The further out a police car is despatched from, the longer it will take them to get there. If they refuse to pick him up.

Looking through Yello Pages helps explain a gap after Nevill's call.

PC West in his statement says he told him to " meet the police at the farmhouse" I.e go there himself, and he agrees, he makes no mention of Bamber asking to get picked up

Was this later rectified that this was the case?

[Adam]

I don’t think we will ever know ILB, why he woke Julie up at 3.00am, when his father asked him to come quickly, why he never rang the police on 999, why he drove slowly instead of quickly, Bamber Knows why and so to does Mugford in my view?

He testified he drove slowly to 'arrive after the police'.

This would be because he was scared.

Guilters will say this was because he wanted to give the impression he had just left his cottage.

[Adam]

PC West in his statement says he told him to " meet the police at the farmhouse" I.e go there himself, and he agrees, he makes no mention of Bamber asking to get picked up

Was this later rectified that this was the case?

'Crimes, hearts and Coronets' says he asked to be picked up.

Will check Wilkes's as well.

[ILB]

Guilters will say this was because he wanted to give the impression he had just left his cottage.

Do you believe he was worried that if already at WHF when the police arrived he would come under suspicion?

[Adam]

Do you believe he was worried that if already at WHF when the police arrived he would come under suspicion?

Not straight away. But later.

[ILB]

Not straight away. But later.

He shouldn't have worried, remember he would have woke up half of goldhanger with the sound of his car ignition starting
.
Not to mention the security cameras.

Would have been a good alibi.