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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #345 on: April 18, 2025, 08:12:PM »
Yes with regards to entering but he did not admit to knowing of a way to exit leaving any window secured from within.
I don't know for how long Barlow scrutinized the windows. Remember White House Farm had been Jeremy's home for years and he could easily have unloosened and banged a window shut with the help of a bradawl Barlow might have known nothing about.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #346 on: April 18, 2025, 08:14:PM »
You have to take this into consideration, how many murders go back to the scene to cover something up?

Discovering new information about the investigation or remembering a forgotten detail can cause concern, leading them to believe that returning might help them eliminate evidence or correct a mistake. This behavior is often driven by a desire to avoid detection and the consequences of their actions.

But we know he had a legitimate reason for returning ie his car docs for travelling abroad.  The car docs were retained in the office at WHF.  It was a company car and the company business was run from WHF.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #347 on: April 18, 2025, 08:16:PM »
Because others claim JB claimed he knew of such when he claims he didn't.

I have always said it was something the jury needed to see for itself.  Too late now.

Julie knew about the window.

Guess who told her?
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #348 on: April 18, 2025, 08:17:PM »
Because others claim JB claimed he knew of such when he claims he didn't.

I have always said it was something the jury needed to see for itself.  Too late now.

Rivlin went to WHF several times.

He wisely did not want the jury seeing the window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #349 on: April 18, 2025, 08:17:PM »
I don't know for how long Barlow scrutinized the windows. Remember White House Farm had been Jeremy's home for years and he could easily have unloosened and banged a window shut with the help of a bradawl Barlow might have known nothing about.

The people that needed to scrutinise the window(s) were jurors under the direction of prosecution, defence and any relevant experts.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

Lets be having you Swedes...a country whose claim to fame is Abba and Ikea and produces aesthetically challenging cars!

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #350 on: April 18, 2025, 08:19:PM »
Rivlin went to WHF several times.

He wisely did not want the jury seeing the window.

I believe he went once.  Lets see the evidence of his visit(s) and what he actually looked at.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

Lets be having you Swedes...a country whose claim to fame is Abba and Ikea and produces aesthetically challenging cars!

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #351 on: April 18, 2025, 08:24:PM »
Julie knew about the window.

Guess who told her?
That's a good point, Adam.

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #352 on: April 18, 2025, 08:24:PM »
I believe he went once.  Lets see the evidence of his visit(s) and what he actually looked at.

ILB says 'from time to time'.

But once was enough.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #353 on: April 18, 2025, 08:26:PM »
I believe he went once.  Lets see the evidence of his visit(s) and what he actually looked at.

Number 1 thing to look at - window.

If he didn't it is too late now. All supporters can do is claim the police lied.

Lying would be very risky with the defence having over a year to prepare & check the window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #354 on: April 18, 2025, 08:48:PM »
Bamber would have told his defence to look at the window.

If he didn't know of a window that could be banged shut.

If he didn't tell them, the defence would have checked anyway. Aware of the prosecution narrative.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #355 on: April 18, 2025, 08:51:PM »
Julie knew about the window.

Guess who told her?

DS Jones  ::)
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

Lets be having you Swedes...a country whose claim to fame is Abba and Ikea and produces aesthetically challenging cars!

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #356 on: April 18, 2025, 08:52:PM »
Bamber would have told his defence to look at the window.

If he didn't know of a window that could be banged shut.

If he didn't tell them, the defence would have checked anyway. Aware of the prosecution narrative.

Evidence.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

Lets be having you Swedes...a country whose claim to fame is Abba and Ikea and produces aesthetically challenging cars!

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #357 on: April 18, 2025, 08:57:PM »
DS Jones  ::)

You forgot to say 'the treacherous' Stan Jones.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #358 on: April 18, 2025, 08:59:PM »
Evidence.

His police interviews. He said he did not know of such a window.

So would have told his defence to get evidence there was no such window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #359 on: April 18, 2025, 09:01:PM »
The defence on both the window and Sea Wall was -

Yes it was possible to cycle it & bang the window shut. But that does not mean he did.
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