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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #300 on: April 18, 2025, 12:03:PM »
It depends on the age of the windows and for how long anyone had been practising the feat.

Must have been a versatile handle.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #301 on: April 18, 2025, 12:05:PM »

Theory about what?  DC Barlow claims he checked the windows and found only the kitchen window could be closed from outside.  Closed doesn't necessarily mean secured.  Did he check from inside WHF it was secured as DCI Jones did?  In any event I think the jurors needed to go to WHF to see for themselves how it worked in practice.

I think I read somewhere that Rivlin did attend the soc pre-trial?

So Rivlin would have checked the window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #302 on: April 18, 2025, 01:10:PM »
So Rivlin would have checked the window.

Evidence please a) he attended and b) checked the window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #303 on: April 18, 2025, 01:12:PM »
Evidence please a) he attended and b) checked the window.

You & ILB just said he attended.

So he would have checked the window.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #304 on: April 18, 2025, 01:25:PM »
You & ILB just said he attended.

So he would have checked the window.

Rivlin confirms he attended the SOC from time to time.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #305 on: April 18, 2025, 03:52:PM »
Rivlin confirms he attended the SOC from time to time.

Do you think he would have checked the kitchen window?
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #306 on: April 18, 2025, 04:01:PM »
Don't know if Rivlin got on his bike and checked The Sea Wall.

He attended WHF from time to time. If a hands on head of defence, he may have got on a bike and done his own check. 

Or he may have got one of his team to do it for him.

The prosecution  journey was too important to not be checked by the defence. They had over a year to do so. 
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #307 on: April 18, 2025, 04:06:PM »
Do you think he would have checked the kitchen window?

I don't know if he specifically checked it himself.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #308 on: April 18, 2025, 04:07:PM »
I don't know if he specifically checked it himself.

Do you think he would have checked it?
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #309 on: April 18, 2025, 04:07:PM »
Don't know if Rivlin got on his bike and checked The Sea Wall.

He attended WHF from time to time. If a hands on head of defence, he may have got on a bike and done his own check. 


I am led to believe he was chiefly a prosecutor. JB being his first defence case.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #310 on: April 18, 2025, 04:09:PM »
Do you think he would have checked it?

I cannot envision a QC checking it himself, maybe a junior. Unsure if they hired anyone.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #311 on: April 18, 2025, 04:18:PM »
I cannot envision a QC checking it himself, maybe a junior. Unsure if they hired anyone.

So why was he going to WHF?

My view is he would have checked it.

He could have asked someone from EP to show him. But not hard to work it out himself.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #312 on: April 18, 2025, 04:22:PM »
So why was he going to WHF?

My view is he would have checked it.

He could have asked someone from EP to show him. But not hard to work it out himself.

All that is referenced is the coppers carrying out the examination of the window which Rivlin references.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #313 on: April 18, 2025, 04:23:PM »
Don't know if Rivlin got on his bike and checked The Sea Wall.


I sincerely doubt it.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #314 on: April 18, 2025, 04:31:PM »
I sincerely doubt it.

The Sea Wall was 1.2 miles from WHF.

So he may have gone for a stroll or cycle ride. He attended WHF from time to time.

Or may have attended WHF with a work collegue & told him to visit The Sea Wall while he was at WHF.

Both the journey and window would be comprehensively checked by the defence.
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