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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #135 on: April 16, 2025, 05:41:PM »
He denies 12 different things in that extract. Entrance, shooting, removal of silencer, exit.

So no surprise he denied cycling The Sea Wall.

Deny being the key element. That is the first point anything about the sea wall was put to him in almost 13 months. There is nothing reference the wall in the police interviews but there is talk of the bike.

Wilkinson undertook his route experiment in October 85, Bamber was already banged up on remand awaiting trial then. As said earlier all routes were undertook as all routes would have been deemed a viable option. Settling on the sea wall at trial on the account of nobody seeing him ( 500 people interviewed in the locality)

Maybe a jury visit at 2am would have been beneficial.


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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #136 on: April 16, 2025, 05:47:PM »
Julie doesn't even say sea wall just " backroads"

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #137 on: April 16, 2025, 05:49:PM »
He should have told his defence to ask him if he didn't know the way.

The Appellant's Evidence at Trial 137. No transcript has survived as to the appellant's evidence in chief, although it seems clear from the summing up that it was entirely consistent with that which he had told the police. A transcript of his cross-examination is available. In cross-examination the appellant said Sheila Caffell had frequent delusions and had spoken to him of suicide.

For we know he may have done, we're never going to find out because a transcript between himself and Rivlin didn't survive for some strange reason.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #138 on: April 16, 2025, 05:50:PM »
Deny being the key element. That is the first point anything about the sea wall was put to him in almost 13 months. There is nothing reference the wall in the police interviews but there is talk of the bike.

Wilkinson undertook his route experiment in October 85, Bamber was already banged up on remand awaiting trial then. As said earlier all routes were undertook as all routes would have been deemed a viable option. Settling on the sea wall at trial on the account of nobody seeing him ( 500 people interviewed in the locality)

Maybe a jury visit at 2am would have been beneficial.

A 2.00am jury visit?

Maybe they will offerred some hamburgers by the 2.00am BBQ ers in a nearby field.

CC/Curiosity wanted the jury taken on a day visit. My recent 3 videos shows that would just incriminate Bamber further.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #139 on: April 16, 2025, 05:52:PM »
Julie doesn't even say sea wall just " backroads"

She does say the Sea Wall when testifying.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #140 on: April 16, 2025, 05:52:PM »
A 2.00am jury visit?

Maybe they will offerred some hamburgers by the 2.00am BBQ ers in a nearby field.


Remember that guilter who did it with night vision goggles then pulled down the blog.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #141 on: April 16, 2025, 05:54:PM »
A 2.00am jury visit?

Replicates the timeframe he went on it.

No point going at 10 o clock in the morning.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #142 on: April 16, 2025, 05:57:PM »
Remember that guilter who did it with night vision goggles then pulled down the blog.

Vlogs & articles are taken down all the time. I looked for one recently on something non Bamber but it had gone.

Others appear out of the blue. Had been looking for something for decades (non Bamber). Appeared on Youtube this month.

He didn't wear night vision goggles. You are going too far with your support again.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #143 on: April 16, 2025, 05:57:PM »
Vlogs & articles are taken down all the time. I looked for one recently on something non Bamber but it had gone.

Others appear out of the blue. Had been looking for something for decades (non Bamber). Appeared on Youtube this month.

He didn't wear night vision goggles. You are going too far with your support again.

Yes he did. I'm not going over it again.

Agree to disagree.

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #144 on: April 16, 2025, 06:00:PM »
A 2.00am jury visit?

Maybe they will offerred some hamburgers by the 2.00am BBQ ers in a nearby field.

CC/Curiosity wanted the jury taken on a day visit. My recent 3 videos shows that would just incriminate Bamber further.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #145 on: April 16, 2025, 06:00:PM »
Replicates the timeframe he went on it.

No point going at 10 o clock in the morning.

If the defence think the terrain was too tough, they had over a year to take photos or a video. Or both.

Ditto if it was too dark.

All they said was 'no one saw him'. No surprise there. He passed no properties!
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #146 on: April 16, 2025, 06:01:PM »
My recent 3 videos shows that would just incriminate Bamber further.

We don't even know how he made the journey for definite. We never will. Could have walked it via the roads or anything. Could have jumped in the motor.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2025, 06:01:PM »
Yes he did. I'm not going over it again.

Agree to disagree.

I am not a supporter. I am on the fence.

He said 'once my eyes got used to the ambient light it was so easy to see'.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #148 on: April 16, 2025, 06:04:PM »
Walking is not tiring for a 24 year old guy, even though I don't believe he walked.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #149 on: April 16, 2025, 06:05:PM »
Maybe he should have cycled there and then walked back with a torch. Giving the impression that the bike had been at WHF all along.
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