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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2025, 10:42:PM »
A bike was found at his cottage.

He was never asked in cross examination or direct or in the former police interviews about the route.

Do you have trouble remembering things?

It was discussed at trial. And was in the judges summing up.

Agree Bamber has never said The Sea Wall could not be cycled in any of his CCRC or COA applications.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2025, 10:43:PM »
And was in the judges summing up.


Source.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2025, 10:43:PM »

Agree Bamber has never said The Sea Wall could not be cycled in any of his CCRC or COA applications.

Was never asked.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2025, 10:45:PM »
Source.

Wilkes -

'Why did Bamber bring a bike for Julie if the relationship was coming to a close'.

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2025, 10:45:PM »
Was never asked.

It's his submission. Does not need to be asked.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2025, 10:49:PM »
Considering no one saw Bamber on any of the main roads, surprised he has never included The Sea Wall in any of his submissions.

Guess even for him it was too weak.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2025, 12:11:AM »
Wilkes -

'Why did Bamber bring a bike for Julie if the relationship was coming to a close'.

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Do you have trouble remembering things?

That's an author.

Not Arlidge.

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2025, 12:12:AM »
Wilkes -

'Why did Bamber bring a bike for Julie if the relationship was coming to a close'.

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Furthermore that's not a quote put directly to Bamber and asks nothing about the journey in the early hours of 7.8.85

It may be a closing argument piece, would have to check.

Bamber told EP he had brought the bike for Julie in his interviews of September 85, thirteen months prior to trial.

Please make your point.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2025, 12:16:AM »
It's his submission. Does not need to be asked.

He was never asked at trial. I have the transcript.

Ok then don't ask him, but don't discount a account he puts forward years later when you couldn't be bothered to ask him. ( prosecution)
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2025, 12:20:AM »
Considering no one saw Bamber on any of the main roads, surprised he has never included The Sea Wall in any of his submissions.

Guess even for him it was too weak.

The Sea wall is the prosecution theory.


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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2025, 08:20:AM »
The Sea wall is the prosecution theory.

Why do you think The Sea Wall cycle ride has never been a ground submitted to the CCRC or COA?

No one saw or recorded him on the other routes. It was the route the prosecution went with.

You have said cycling at night is a 'non starter'.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2025, 08:22:AM »
Why do you think The Sea Wall cycle ride has never been a ground submitted to the CCRC or COA?

No one saw or recorded him on the other routes. It was the route the prosecution went with.

You have said cycling at night is a 'non starter'.

Because he had fully functioning legs and access to a car.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2025, 08:25:AM »

You have said cycling at night is a 'non starter'.

Travelling with a bike light or some kind of artificial lighting accessory its possible. On the road very possible. The Sea wall which has poor visibility would make visibility a little better.

However for me have to agree with Bamber, that travelling over land in the middle of the night in poor visibility without a bike light torch over terrain where you can't see shit is a none starter.

Good thing that DI Wilkinson did the sea wall bike ride journey in the day. He would had ended up on sick leave for six months due to fractured bones had he gone at nightime.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2025, 08:29:AM »
The defence just simply stated " nobody saw Jeremy Bamber"

The 2nd investigation they got an officer to explore all routes via car, walking and cycling. Suspect they believed he could have travelled by all.

Suspect settling on the sea wall for effect, 500 people were interviewed and nobody clocked him. However they didn't replicate it at night ( for obvious reasons stated)

Whether the defence should have gone down the transport route more aggressively is a matter of opinion.
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