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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2025, 06:23:PM »
He said that Nevill didn't want to involve the police.

So he calls the police!

Then changes his mind decades later and says Nevill did call the police. As well as call him.

Be easier to just take his rifle back

Yes he called the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2025, 06:40:PM »
Yes he called the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.
No he didn’t, he phoned Julie after supposedly receiving a call from his Dad, according to his 8/9 statement with DCI jones, 7th page down, I can’t load anything my Computer is broke.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2025, 06:43:PM »
But he was in somewhat of a double bind:

- He received a call from NB alerting him to SC having a gun and going crazy and asking him to go over. 
- He knows SC has a long history of serious mental health issues. 
- He knows his parents are very private people particularly with regards to family affairs and SC's mental health
- He knows his father is a magistrate and yet has guns and ammo all over the farmhouse none of it secured

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- If he thought his father wanted the police involved then why was he phoning him
- If he phoned the police and all was ok then he risked upsetting NB because this is not what he asked for

Totally agree with you.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2025, 06:44:PM »
He was half asleep and may have not appreciated the seriousness of the situation.

He may have been of the opinion of what Adam often purports that " Nevill would simply take the rifle from Shelia"

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2025, 06:44:PM »
No he didn’t, he phoned Julie after supposedly receiving a call from his Dad, according to his 8/9 statement with DCI jones, 7th page down, I can’t load anything my Computer is broke.

He did call the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.

I never said he didn't call JM first. 
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2025, 06:46:PM »
Yes he called the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.

Why do you think he decided to look through Yello Pages for the phone number of a police station over 20 miles from WHF. After phoning Julie?

Strangest reaction I've ever heard of.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2025, 06:48:PM »
He did call the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.

I never said he didn't call JM first.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2025, 06:51:PM »
To hear a friendly voice. At 3.00am.


She didn't get to use it! He seems to have done most of the talking!

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #83 on: April 14, 2025, 06:52:PM »
He did call the police AFTER being told of the situation AND NB cutting the conversation short and then finding he was unable to call back.

I never said he didn't call JM first.
Sorry I thought the thread was the timing of the call to JM and you was missing this out.  Others have it that he called the police and then Julie.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #84 on: April 14, 2025, 06:53:PM »
Why do you think he decided to look through Yello Pages for the phone number of a police station over 20 miles from WHF. After phoning Julie?

Strangest reaction I've ever heard of.
He wanted to shop local rather than using the 999 service.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #85 on: April 14, 2025, 06:55:PM »
Sorry I thought the thread was the timing of the call to JM and you was missing this out.  Others have it that he called the police and then Julie.

I've always thought he called JM first to sound her out having found himself in somewhat of a double bind. 
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #86 on: April 14, 2025, 07:00:PM »
But he was in somewhat of a double bind:

- He received a call from NB alerting him to SC having a gun and going crazy and asking him to go over. 
- He knows SC has a long history of serious mental health issues. 
- He knows his parents are very private people particularly with regards to family affairs and SC's mental health
- He knows his father is a magistrate and yet has guns and ammo all over the farmhouse none of it secured

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- If he thought his father wanted the police involved then why was he phoning him
- If he phoned the police and all was ok then he risked upsetting NB because this is not what he asked for

This is inventing stuff on JB's behalf.

JB said he called the local police (rather than 999) because "he didn't think it would make any difference" and Nevill didn't call the police because he "does involve organisations"

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #87 on: April 14, 2025, 07:03:PM »
I've always thought he called JM first to sound her out having found himself in somewhat of a double bind.
I don’t think we will ever know what they said, they’re both liars, I don’t understand why posters try to dismiss the fact he called Julie first and then the Police? It’s obvious he phoned Julie before the Police, he says he wasn’t on long because he’d got to phone the Police.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2025, 07:11:PM »
He wanted to shop local rather than using the 999 service.

Why?

Over 20 miles from WHF is not local.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2025, 07:15:PM »
My reasons he called Chelmsford Police -

It helps explain the long gap after Nevill's call.

The further out a police car is despatched from, the more chance of being picked up by them at GH.

The further out a police car is despatched from, the more time he has before having to drive to WHF.
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