The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford

[snow66!]

He was in that much shock and panic, he didn’t call 999.

He had to keep it local incase it was a false alarm HB, I think Bill Robertson explained all that!

[BarefootDanC]

He had to keep it local incase it was a false alarm HB, I think Bill Robertson explained all that!

That's not what Bamber said! Bamber said he thought it "wouldn't many any different", despite that it said in the phone book in bold "in an emergency, phone 999"!

[snow66!]

That's not what Bamber said! Bamber said he thought it "wouldn't many any different", despite that it said in the phone book in bold "in an emergency, phone 999"!

Yes, thats what he initially told the police I believe, Dan.

[Hardy Boy]

He had to keep it local incase it was a false alarm HB, I think Bill Robertson explained all that!

Nothing like shopping local eh Snow.  Is that yours or Bills idea Snow. Because it’s not what Bamber said?

[snow66!]

Nothing like shopping local eh Snow.  Is that yours or Bills idea Snow. Because it’s not what Bamber said?

Its not mine, HB, but i've heard it many times. I presumed it originated from JB at some stage!

[Hardy Boy]

Its not mine, HB, but i've heard it many times. I presumed it originated from JB at some stage!

oh, you made it sound like it was yours, so your passing on someone else’s Crap then?

[snow66!]

oh, you made it sound like it was yours, so your passing on someone else’s Crap then?

I'll try and find out where it originated from, HB!

[BarefootDanC]

Its not mine, HB, but i've heard it many times. I presumed it originated from JB at some stage!

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether it originated from JB or from Bill Robertson. We can only go on the reason he gave in 1985/1986. Excuses which he or his supporters have dreamt up years or even decades later are just that.

[Adam]

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether it originated from JB or from Bill Robertson. We can only go on the reason he gave in 1985/1986. Excuses which he or his supporters have dreamt up years or even decades later are just that.

Why do you think he dialled Chelmsford Police rather than 999?

[snow66!]

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether it originated from JB or from Bill Robertson. We can only go on the reason he gave in 1985/1986. Excuses which he or his supporters have dreamt up years or even decades later are just that.

You are a hard taskmaster, Dan!

[Hardy Boy]

I'll try and find out where it originated from, HB!

Its ok Snow, it’s obvious where it came from. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes, that's what he is doing now! These days he says "Nevill called me around quarter past half past 3" - i.e moving the time to around 3:25 so that he can claim he called the police around 3:36.

No idea why he bothers at this late stage.  None of it can be proved/disproved.  The times will never shift from what was set out at trial:

26. PC West recorded the time of the appellant's call as 3.36 a.m. At trial it was accepted that the officer had misread a digital clock. The officer's contact with Mr Bonnett was recorded as being at 3.26 a.m. and it seems clear that the appellant's call must have been at 3.26 a.m. or very shortly before.

[Cambridgecutie]

That's not what Bamber said! Bamber said he thought it "wouldn't many any different", despite that it said in the phone book in bold "in an emergency, phone 999"!

But he was in somewhat of a double bind:

- He received a call from NB alerting him to SC having a gun and going crazy and asking him to go over. 
- He knows SC has a long history of serious mental health issues. 
- He knows his parents are very private people particularly with regards to family affairs and SC's mental health
- He knows his father is a magistrate and yet has guns and ammo all over the farmhouse none of it secured

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- If he thought his father wanted the police involved then why was he phoning him
- If he phoned the police and all was ok then he risked upsetting NB because this is not what he asked for

[Adam]

He said that Nevill didn't want to involve the police.

So he calls the police!

Then changes his mind decades later and says Nevill did call the police. As well as call him.

Be easier to just take his rifle back 

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes, I do think he was that stupid. It was pretty stupid phoning Julie in any event!

At the time he was excited and didn't think that details like that would be scrutinised.

Not at all.  As I said in my previous post he was in a double bind.  JM was aware of SC's mental health issues.  She was also familiar with NB and June.  Also she had witnessed SC's state at the party Sat eve, some 72 hours earlier.  It's all very well saying 'well I would dial 999 immediately' but you need to consider the surrounding facts.