Author Topic: My agreements/disagreements with supporters. Re: The Sea Wall route::  (Read 5157 times)

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Have to go by Wilkinson's WS - good, flat terrain.

You had a bike & were in the area last year. But knew his WS was correct.

Can't compare the two, night and day.

Nobody can disprove Bambers claim of " him having no idea "

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He would exit out of his back garden.

Then across one field.

But could still be seen from the rear of the properties along Head St and Fish St.  The problem is the lower risk routes are actually higher risk if observed.  Ie if observed how does he explain walking across the fields to the rear of his property pushing a bike!
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But could still be seen from the rear of the properties along Head St and Fish St.  The problem is the lower risk routes are actually higher risk if observed.  Ie if observed how does he explain walking across the fields to the rear of his property pushing a bike!

Seen through trees and bushes outside peoples back gardens at 2am?

He would be prepared to take that risk.
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Can't compare the two, night and day.

Nobody can disprove Bambers claim of " him having no idea "

Did he testify he didn't know the route?

Probably better he didn't. An open goal for the prosecution.
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Seen through trees and bushes outside peoples back gardens at 2am?

He would be prepared to take that risk.

Getting all just too much Hollywood movie for me.

All the time a B reg 85 astra on your driveway.
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Did he testify he didn't know the route?

Probably better he didn't. An open goal for the prosecution.

He wasn't asked in cross or direct.

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And people also sleep soundly.

I reckon my odds are good and appreciate people will disagree for the sake of argument.

I have already explained people don't sleep soundly all night and some people will be up and about.  I have already pointed out it was the height of the holiday season.  People arriving home and departing for early morning flights/ferries.  That's just one group of people that will be out and about.  Think about the patrol car that was in the area...patrolling...
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Getting all just too much Hollywood movie for me.

All the time a B reg 85 astra on your driveway.

Cycling from where he lived to where he worked. Millions do it every day.

Nothing Hollywood about it. But a big potential reward.
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Did he testify he didn't know the route?

Probably better he didn't. An open goal for the prosecution.

From the age of 8 he was at greashams

Back for school holidays

Was driving and abroad from his teen years.

He was a car guy, no reason for him to know the route.

Probably took the dog on the field behind bourtree
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Cycling from where he lived to where he worked. Millions do it every day.

Cycling over land in the pitch black in the middle of the night in a wetsuit?

It's bollocks.
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He wasn't asked in cross or direct.

A good idea of the defence to keep his journey low profile. It was such a dream journey for him.

The judge did talk about the bike in his summing up.
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I have already explained people don't sleep soundly all night and some people will be up and about.  I have already pointed out it was the height of the holiday season.  People arriving home and departing for early morning flights/ferries.  That's just one group of people that will be out and about.  Think about the patrol car that was in the area...patrolling...

Flights and ferries?

Even nevill said local police was dad's army.

It was an affluent area, I'm not sure how many patrol cars were out and about that very night. Bews said Bambers car was the only one they had seen in that time period.

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Cycling over land in the pitch black in the middle of the night in a wetsuit?

It's bollocks.

There was good light as it was an open area.

GH has no street lighting.

Agree he cycled over land.

What he wore was up to him.
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A good idea of the defence to keep his journey low profile. It was such a dream journey for him.

The judge did talk about the bike in his summing up.

Think they had bigger fish to fry such as his sisters blood in the sound moderator.

The journey is good talk for forum fodder
 Nothing can seriously go in his benefit, he could walk, he could cycle he could drive. Between 10pm and 3.26am he is a lone man in cottage with nobody to give him an alibi.
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There was good light as it was an open area.

GH has no street lighting.

Agree he cycled over land.

What he wore was up to him.

I'm with Jez " madness laughable "
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