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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2025, 05:59:PM »
The CCRC are going to be told to scrap the real possibility test. It's nonsense, so can completely understand why it would get scrapped.  Regarding the AGA theory for the burns. I have no idea as to where it is correct. The new images are certainly interesting.

A lot of people are interested in trying to piece together in the right order (an extremely difficult task) what actually happened. This does not interest you because you take a different line of approach to the case. It's a broad church.

The real possibility test has nothing to do with what I have posted.  Its not a case of who takes which line.  No aspect of the marks will ever succeed with the CCRC/CoA.  Not sure what's difficult to understand about that.
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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2025, 05:59:PM »
Thank goodness Jez turned his AM off when he was in the house.

Not really.

Nevill could have left a message which would exonerate him.

And he could have continued sleeping 'like a log'.
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2025, 06:12:PM »
Yes you know this.

NB was still on the phone when SC started firing on June.

Did Nevill know June was being shot while he was on the phone to Jeremy?
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2025, 06:13:PM »
The real possibility test has nothing to do with what I have posted.  Its not a case of who takes which line.  No aspect of the marks will ever succeed with the CCRC/CoA.  Not sure what's difficult to understand about that.

Likewise I don't know what people can't understand regarding filling pieces of the jigsaw in.  However, I should add, I have no firm opinion on the marks.

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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2025, 06:15:PM »
Seems me, ILB & CC/Curiosity ageee Nevill did not call the police.

As Jeremy said (after calling the police!) Nevill would want to keep things private.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2025, 06:31:PM »
Did Nevill know June was being shot while he was on the phone to Jeremy?

I assume he heard shots, dropped the phone and went upstairs with haste. 
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2025, 06:32:PM »
The CCRC are going to be told to scrap the real possibility test. It's nonsense, so can completely understand why it would get scrapped.  Regarding the AGA theory for the burns. I have no idea as to whether it is correct. The new images are certainly interesting.

A lot of people are interested in trying to piece together in the right order (an extremely difficult task) what actually happened. This does not interest you because you take a different line of approach to the case. It's a broad church.


It's of no use simply to claim -even if it made sense!- that the Aga was responsible for making marks/burns on Nevill's back. Nothing just happens. Everything has a back story. Nevill's wounds were horrendous and bloody. Where was the blood evidence on the Aga? If you're saying that he wasn't injured when he was placed there, exactly what are you suggesting? There are one or two alternatives available. A) Police shot him, either prior to, or after placing him there, but why would they move him back to the chair? B) Sheila snuck in and shot him whilst their backs were turned. At this stage we know it couldn't have been JB because he was outside with the police. Besides which, it's been claimed that an uninjured, but concussed Nevill regained consciousness and managed to phone him. A feasible back story is required before the claim can make any sense.

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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2025, 06:32:PM »
Likewise I don't know what people can't understand regarding filling pieces of the jigsaw in.  However, I should add, I have no firm opinion on the marks.

But the marks are not just filling pieces of the jigsaw.  They've been put forward as part of a submission to the CCRC.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2025, 06:42:PM »
I assume he heard shots, dropped the phone and went upstairs with haste.

Wow he must have good ears. WHF is a big building.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2025, 06:55:PM »

It's of no use simply to claim -even if it made sense!- that the Aga was responsible for making marks/burns on Nevill's back. Nothing just happens. Everything has a back story. Nevill's wounds were horrendous and bloody. Where was the blood evidence on the Aga? If you're saying that he wasn't injured when he was placed there, exactly what are you suggesting? There are one or two alternatives available. A) Police shot him, either prior to, or after placing him there, but why would they move him back to the chair? B) Sheila snuck in and shot him whilst their backs were turned. At this stage we know it couldn't have been JB because he was outside with the police. Besides which, it's been claimed that an uninjured, but concussed Nevill regained consciousness and managed to phone him. A feasible back story is required before the claim can make any sense.

Good post.

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Re: Hearing New Evidence
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2025, 08:31:PM »
Seems me, ILB & CC/Curiosity ageee Nevill did not call the police.

As Jeremy said (after calling the police!) Nevill would want to keep things private.

He didn't want the coppers sniffing round the farmhouse.

In reference to shelia and probably a few other illegal things.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2025, 08:34:PM »
Not really.

Nevill could have left a message which would exonerate him.

And he could have continued sleeping 'like a log'.

Can't fault a bloke for sleeping.

Sciatica has recently ruined my relationship with getting a good night's shut eye.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2025, 09:00:PM »
Seems that Nevill was wrong in thinking Jeremy would be over in 10 minutes to resolve everything.

He didn't phone Chelmsford police until 15 minutes later!
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2025, 09:08:PM »
I assume he heard shots, dropped the phone and went upstairs with haste.
Why was he phoning JB at this time Cutie? What prompted Nevill?