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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2025, 04:39:PM »
Please desist from drinking while posting and creating multiple profiles. It makes light of the horror at WHF.

Rob said Nevill was chasing Sheila around WHF. This is similar to the Benny Hill sketches.

What do you think Sheila was doing when Nevill picked up the phone & decided only Bamber could save the day?

I have posted on and off this forum since 2012.  Each time I have returned I have created a new profile which I am perfectly entitled to do as per forum rules.   In no way could this be considered disrespectful towards the victims. 

References to Benny Hill to describe victims pursuing one another is disrespectful and completely distasteful.

When NB phoned JB SC went upstairs and started shooting June in bed.  This is what the soc evidence supports.   
« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 05:14:PM by Cambridgecutie »
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2025, 04:45:PM »
I am not sure what you are asking?

If something is known at trail and not used by the defense that is one thing, but if something comes to light years latter not known at the trial that is something else.

Something comes to light?  It is something the defence could have explored at trial.  It is not some new scientific technique eg DNA evidence.  Its pathetic.

Look at the CCRC's website.  It explains what they are looking for eg new scientific evidence.

https://ccrc.gov.uk/the-application-process/

This could be fresh evidence or a new legal argument, such as a new witness or a new scientific development. It has to be something not covered at your trial or appeal.

The marks were covered at trial.  I honestly think whoever came up with this nonsense is utterly, utterly, utterly clueless.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2025, 05:18:PM »
I have posted on and off this forum since 2012.  Each time I have returned I have created a new profile which I am perfectly entitled to do as per forum rules.   In no way could this be considered disrespectful towards the victims. 

References to Benny Hill to describe victims pursuing one another is disrespectful and completely distasteful.

When NB phoned JB SC went upstairs and started shooting June in bed.  This is what the soc evidence supports.

A double mistake by Nevill.

Simultaneously ringing a sleeping Bamber & letting Sheila go upstairs with a rifle.

Was June still sleeping?
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2025, 05:21:PM »
A double mistake by Nevill.

Simultaneously ringing a sleeping Bamber & letting Sheila go upstairs with a rifle.

Was June still sleeping?

It is what it is supported by the soc evidence.

The soc evidence supports June's head on the pillow.  No idea whether she was asleep or not.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2025, 05:33:PM »
It is what it is supported by the soc evidence.

The soc evidence supports June's head on the pillow.  No idea whether she was asleep or not.

Did Sheila shoot June in bed before shooting Nevill?

Maybe Nevill had relaxed too much. Thinking Bamber was coming over within 10 minutes to resolve everything.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2025, 05:35:PM »
A double mistake by Nevill.

Simultaneously ringing a sleeping Bamber & letting Sheila go upstairs with a rifle.

Was June still sleeping?

Would you be able to take a rifle off me? Serious question.

I am 6 foot 4.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 05:36:PM by ILB »
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2025, 05:39:PM »

Maybe Nevill had relaxed too much. Thinking Bamber was coming over within 10 minutes to resolve everything.

He didn't want the coppers at his premises, it's that simple. It's why he decided to ring his son. Too much hassle getting the authorities involved was his initial way of thinking.

Eventually it went tit's up by the looks of it.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2025, 05:44:PM »
Did Sheila shoot June in bed before shooting Nevill?

Yes you know this.

Maybe Nevill had relaxed too much. Thinking Bamber was coming over within 10 minutes to resolve everything.

NB was still on the phone when SC started firing on June.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2025, 05:46:PM »
He didn't want the coppers at his premises, it's that simple. It's why he decided to ring his son. Too much hassle getting the authorities involved was his initial way of thinking.

Eventually it went tit's up by the looks of it.

Bearing in mind NB was a magistrate and had a number of firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammo none of which were stored securely.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2025, 05:49:PM »
Bearing in mind NB was a magistrate and had a number of firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammo none of which were stored securely.

Precisely, he didn't want to end up getting in shit for anything in this regard as well. I have referenced this before.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2025, 05:51:PM »
He didn't want the coppers at his premises, it's that simple. It's why he decided to ring his son. Too much hassle getting the authorities involved was his initial way of thinking.

Eventually it went tit's up by the looks of it.

Agree Nevill didn't phone the police.

Jeremy would be over in 10 mins & resolve everything.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2025, 05:53:PM »
Something comes to light?  It is something the defence could have explored at trial.  It is not some new scientific technique eg DNA evidence.  Its pathetic.

Look at the CCRC's website.  It explains what they are looking for eg new scientific evidence.

https://ccrc.gov.uk/the-application-process/

This could be fresh evidence or a new legal argument, such as a new witness or a new scientific development. It has to be something not covered at your trial or appeal.

The marks were covered at trial.  I honestly think whoever came up with this nonsense is utterly, utterly, utterly clueless.

The CCRC are going to be told to scrap the real possibility test. It's nonsense, so can completely understand why it would get scrapped.  Regarding the AGA theory for the burns. I have no idea as to whether it is correct. The new images are certainly interesting.

A lot of people are interested in trying to piece together in the right order (an extremely difficult task) what actually happened. This does not interest you because you take a different line of approach to the case. It's a broad church.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2025, 05:54:PM »
Yes you know this.

NB was still on the phone when SC started firing on June.

Poor June. Did all that food shopping for Sheila. Then gets shot while sleeping.

Nevill unable to resolve the situation. Thank goodness Jeremy was only 3 miles away.
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Re: Hearing New Evidence
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2025, 05:55:PM »
Agree Nevill didn't phone the police.

Jeremy would be over in 10 mins & resolve everything.

Offer help to a situation.

I guarantee you wouldn't just " simply take the rifle " from me.
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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2025, 05:57:PM »
Poor June. Did all that food shopping for Sheila. Then gets shot while sleeping.

Nevill unable to resolve the situation. Thank goodness Jeremy was only 3 miles away.

Thank goodness Jez turned his AM off when he was in the house.
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